NYT broke the story, buy there’s no paywall on CNN.Donald Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents | CNN Politics
Excellent!
Just to clarify, this is a ruling from the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. It’s not the district court for DC; this was the appeal of that court’s ruling.
Sorry, should’ve been more clear. I went to law school in DC and we always would just call it the “DC Circuit” for short.
So how many more appeals and court rulings to go before it gets to SCOTUS? Because you know Trump isn’t about concede defeat and hand over his tax returns.
This should always be the first question in such threads.
The Times article makes it clear that the tax returns are in a separate case, and that these records pertain only to investigations of conflicts of interest.
I think you should ask a mod to change the title, since it’s misleading about the actual decision.
SCOTUS is virtually certain to overrule, taking a year to do so. And even if they uphold it, how will they enforce it? It still requires people to follow the law and since the AG is all-in with trump, it ain’t gonna happen.
Maybe this is the wrong thread to ask this but are the tax returns actually linked to some sort of crime or is this just a fishing expedition by the Dems?
False dichotomy.
Richard Neal’s letter to Charles Rettig (IRS Commissioner) gives a reason for the request.
The tax returns requested are probably, “linked to some sort of crime,” but that is not the reason for Richard Neal’s request since the House Ways and Means Committee is not a criminal investigative organization. The request was made for a legitimate legislative purpose.
Fishing expedition, clearly.
And quite a pathetically obvious one.
Trump seems to try awfully hard to conceal the presence of any fish.
So? Because someone doesn’t want to show you some shit it gives you the right to use the full weight of the government to try and get it?
It’s pretty disgusting the lengths y’all will go to “get” someone you don’t like.
Like extorting a foreign government, you mean?
You mean like Hilary’s emails and Benghazi?
If this was a Democrat, you’d be all for using the full weight of the government to try and get it.
Good point. It’s not relevant what Trump wants or doesn’t want. The right of congressional oversight flows directly from the Constitution and has been affirmed by the courts.
But does it extend so far as to demand any documents from anyone for any reason? ISTM that subpoenaing documents should be based on other evidence being present like on a search warrant or is Congress exempt from the 4th Amendment?
Why are you framing this question about “anyone for any reason”? You know that Congress is doing the investigating, and the target is the the President, head of the Executive branch. This is authorized and required by the Constitution.
It’s not about Nancy Pelosi shaking you down at a roadblock for your 1040’s (unless you are part of the Executive Branch, and if so, you should tell us).
They are not requesting any documents. They are requesting tax returns which they have been specifically authorized to do under U.S. Code § 6103 (f).
Quick question then. Is there any punishment if information from those tax returns get leaked to the press or other people?