Contact with the Great Beyond--Psychics like Praagh

P.S. Lekatt, another “food for thought” article…


DNA becomes new storage mode

By James Pearce, ZDNet Australia
26 February 2003

Genetic material has been used to store information for around five billion years. Now scientists have discovered a way to use it to store the information we desire.

Scientists at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) reported in the journal Communications of the ACM that for very long-term storage of data DNA is the medium of choice. While electronic memory degrades, paper disintegrates, and even stone tablets erode, DNA can store data effectively for millions of years.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000024981,20272417,00.htm
No sign of design?!

:smack: :smiley:

Read it, I was not asleep. Stick with the truth.

There still *isn’t * evidence. You assume DNA was intelligently designed, but it could (and did ;)) easily develop by accident. Don’t make the mistake of assuming there was just one incident in which chemicals formed a compound on the primordial Earth. There may have even been many incidents in which self-replicating compounds formed, and out of those, our genetic material was one that managed to survive for more than a brief period.

Okay, Leroy. I read it again. And I shall be more precise. You were asleep in bed at home. At about two AM, you believe you woke up, and had a spiritual visit.

Why do you believe that you had a Near Death Experience, and not a religious epiphany?

GOM-It sounds as though you want to start a debate about Intelligent Design, which is fine (I told Lekatt to do the same thing), but can you start a new thread? What I was trying to point out was that Lekatt’s understanding of what a theory was, wasn’t correct. I wasn’t trying to start a debate on ID v. Evolution.

Thanks GOM, yes this is very interesting. I don’t think it’s very practical according to the article, but interesting. I see a Director (God) in all things, how could this universe have come together without intelligence. I don’t think it could.

I am careful about the claims of scientists, like the one about curing stupidity. They often say things they can’t deliver. Even real cloning has not been accomplished. They have produced some things similar, but they are weaker, have problems and can not be considered clones (exact copies) yet.

From your story:

Sounds like a dream to me. You thought you woke up, but you were dreaming. Or…you woke up partially, but not completely and were still in a semi-dreaming state. It’s happened to me. Once I had a dream that there were mice in my pillow nibbling their way through. I woke up when I leaped up on the bed, and stood there for about a minute before I woke up completely and realized it was a dream. I say something like that happened to you if you weren’t still completely asleep and dreaming the whole thing.

In any case it wasn’t a NEAR DEATH experience, because you weren’t NEAR DEATH. :rolleyes:

Why are people still paying attention to this thread?

And the slippery slope of logical fallacies continue. Collect them all.

No, I don’t imagine you do. I don’t think you can even conceive of anything that doesn’t fit your world view.

But not the claims of psychics and spiritualists. :rolleyes:

I’ve never heard of any scientists claiming they could “cure stupidity.” Maybe some pseudo-scientists did. If it was possible I can think of a number of people for whom I’d buy the treatments.

By the way, could you give us your qualifications for judging the reality of cloning, or anything else for that matter?

At this point Lud, it’s kind of become a hobby. :smiley:

From your story:

Sounds like a dream to me. You thought you woke up, but you were dreaming. Or…you woke up partially, but not completely and were still in a semi-dreaming state. It’s happened to me. Once I had a dream that there were mice in my pillow nibbling their way through. I woke up when I leaped up on the bed, and stood there for about a minute before I woke up completely and realized it was a dream. I say something like that happened to you if you weren’t still completely asleep and dreaming the whole thing.

In any case it wasn’t a NEAR DEATH experience, because you weren’t NEAR DEATH. :rolleyes:

The experts say DNA computing has great potential because:

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Its information storage capacity is one TRILLION times greater than that of conventional media like hard drives and video tape. **That means smaller units.

DNA reactions are parallel, meaning that trillions of strands of DNA can perform operations at once. That would speed up performance by a factor of 100,000 or more.

DNA computation will be highly efficient, using a fraction of the energy required by a silicon-based computer.
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/news_columnists/article/0,1406,KNS_359_1653799,00.html
Life is very high technology. Technology that is currently far beyond that of human high technology, although IBM is attempting to reverse engineer some parts of life.

http://www.research.ibm.com/FunGen/

DNA’s storage capacity is a trillion times greater than the storage capacity humans have designed. DNA’s highly intelligent design should be obvious just from that one comparison. But sometimes it’s apparently easier to ignore the obvious when it disagrees with a person’s previously accepted beliefs…

I hope you appreciate the irony of your post…

:smiley:

Are you using this to explain psychics? How does this relate to psychics at all? I mean sure their have been hijacks in this train wreck, but your encouraging them at this point.

GOM, this really isn’t the place for that particular discussion. Why don’t you start a new thread?

Now you are telling me what happened in my own experience, gee, I didn’t see you around at the time.

You couldn’t give a decent definition of a NDE, because you don’t know.

Hey that’s interesting. Instead of answering why you believe it was a NDE instead of a dream you choose to mock photopat.

And then you ad-hom him.

Nice…

Yes, in fact, you can give a decent definition of a Near Death Experience, because it is a bit of terminology. As such, it has a definition.

I shall now attempt to find one.

http://www.nderf.org/
The Near-Death Experience (NDE) may be defined as

“A lucid experience associated with perceived consciousness apart from the body occurring at the time of actual or threatened imminent death.”

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/experts03.html
This gentleman defined the term.
Moody recorded and compared the experiences of 150 persons who died, or almost died, and then recovered. His research describes the results of decades of inquiry into the NDE phenomenon. He outlines nine elements that generally occur during NDEs.

Here is one from the nonbelievers.
http://skepdic.com/nde.html
A wide array of experiences reported by some people who have nearly died or who have thought they were going to die.

The thing that I’m questioning, you see, is that you were nearly dead or thought you were going to die. I see that in your experience, you were offered a choice to live or die, but I don’t see that as the agent that caused the experience, just part of the experience.

Do you understand my point, Leroy?

So, let’s see. You can give an opinion that skeptics and atheists basically have no moral center and no reason to live, but I can’t venture an opinion as to what happened to you. Hmm. Sounds fair.