Interesting, because I’ve read that Australia has made national policy based on the affirmative idea that vaccines don’t stop transmission.
Cite? I know an SDMB poster wrote that in the news thread, without any cite. But nothing I’ve seen from the Australian government has made that affirmative claim. I think it’s more based on uncertainty about how effective vaccines are at all against some of the new strains, and the fact that the virus is still rampant in many parts of the world, rather than data indicating that vaccines are better at stopping disease than stopping transmission.
Bill Gates is funding the anti-mask movement because they interfere with the hidden cameras he has planted everywhere. Pass it on…
CDC:
A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing.
And further discussion and citation of the (limited) evidence therein. We are far from having enough data to say anything definitive yet, and in any event the answer will not be binary, it is a question of how much vaccines that are effective against disease also reduce transmission. And, of course, the effecitvess will likely vary among strains. But I’m not aware of any good evidence to the contrary, nor of the Australian government claiming that their decision was based on any such evidence.
I wonder if he’s mentioned it to Melinda prior to the divorce.
It does for one guy. I shared this in another thread last week:
So sayeth Tucker:
And you see them everywhere when you walk down the street of any major city. Dare to go on foot from Union Station to the Capitol, for example, in Washington without a mask, and angry Biden voters will snort at you in judgment. “How could you?” they’re saying from behind the gauze. “How could you?” That’s what we should be asking in return. The rest of us should be snorting at them first. They’re the aggressors. It’s our job to brush them back and restore the society we were born in.
The next time you see someone in a mask on the sidewalk or the bike path, don’t hesitate. Ask politely but firmly: “would you please take off your mask? Science shows there is no reason to wear it. Your mask is making me uncomfortable.” We should do that, and we should keep doing it, until wearing a mask outdoors is roughly as socially accepted as lighting a Marlboro in an elevator. It’s repulsive. Don’t do it around other people. That’s the message we should send because it’s true.
So yes, if you want to continue wearing any sort of mask even after the pandemic has faded away, you may want to brace yourself for occasional encounters with lunatics.
Tucker Carlson is full of shit. The loon also calls having your child wear a mask outside child abuse and suggests that if you see a child wearing a mask, you should call 911 and CPS.
In most circumstances I will continue to wear a mask if I can’t socially distance or somehow be confident I’m not in proximity to people infected with something. I don’t like it but I like getting sick even less. This will give me some protection from the flu, there can be multiple strains of the flu in a year so just getting one vaccine is not perfect. It will give me some protection from common colds and other easily communicable diseases, and maybe even give me some protection against the next disease stupid humans end up spreading. I suppose if by some miracle my general health improves I might even take a chance at getting within 6 feet of strangers some day but right now I don’t even want to put up with pollen allergies this year.
Trying to wrap my brain around these two statements.
Someone who wears a mask is an “aggressor”… hmmm… “the society we were born into”…hmmm…
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Ok. Never mind. Can’t be done.
Most definitely I didn’t mind missing out on cold and flu season this year. That was pretty rad. Also the mask warms my face in winter, also I like that my face can do its weird face things without anybody watching or judging.
Summertime? Not masking unless it’s required. But I’ll do it next winter for sure. I kind of want to get a one-piece for my entire head, but I’m not sure how Black Bloc apparel would go down in the produce aisle of the grocery store. My hood is tolerant, but not that tolerant.
I’m sure that when some Tuckie gets arrested for filing a bogus report and wasting the police’s time, the Great Pumpkinhead will step up to pay their legal bills (snort)…
Anti vaxxers are starting to wear masks to protect themselves from people who have been vaccinated.
Hell, that’s no protection. The rays from those chips in Bill Gates’ vaccine go right through masks.
We certainly could go down the road of masks-for-anonymity alongside masks-for-preventing-disease: Other countries have been down that road before us. Even before COVID, in Japan, for instance, masks were considered a fashion accessory.
I was just telling my husband the other day that as much as I hate wearing a mask, I might do so in the winter for the rest of my life. At least when I’m anyplace with a lot of people. I haven’t had a cold in over a year and would love to never have one again. Wearing a mask when I have symptoms won’t keep me from catching one, and I certainly don’t trust other people to wear them even with symptoms.
I also haven’t had a cold in over a year. Not in 28 months, actually. I average a cold every 2 years, and avoiding people who are coughing plus frequent handwashing does about as good as a mask with non-covid illnesses in my experience.
Considering we’ve only started wearing masks in the last year… how do you know?
I’ve heard from more than one person that they intend to continue masking in the summer months because they’ve found it helps with pollen allergies. So I suspect we’ll continue to see masked people at all times of the year well after COVID is gone, and that’s fine.
I realize it’s a hard thing to study, but are you aware of any actual confirmed case of a vaccinated person infecting an unvaccinated person?
Several of my friends have always worn masks when mowing the yard, raking leaves, or doing other yard work that stirs up the vegetation (especially dead/moldy vegetation). When the pandemic hit, they already had these masks on hand.
I would love it if we could get to the point where wearing a mask or not was considered a purely personal decision with no political content or implications.
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BWAHAHAHAHA! 
Right–like that’s ever gonna happen! Sometimes I crack myself up.