Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

…for the sake of context, I’ll include the post you were replying too.

There is no hate there. There is no “abject hatred of everything American” there. Not in that thread. Not even in this thread. It was a typical debate. Where I wasn’t “hating on America” but was endorsing what an American politician had said. Then you decided to drop that bomb.

Your words, my words, they are all right there. You are just making stuff up.

Can you be open about why you appear to have an irrational hatred of me?

Why would you lie about this?

No seriously. Why?

Its not as if people can’t simply scroll up and see that this isn’t true.

For example:

Cheesesteak didn’t blame the hosptial. They didn’t dare do that. Cheesesteak let them off the hook. Cheesesteak let the cops off the hook. She died because of the Republicans.

It doesn’t matter that the police had her in custody, she was clearly displaying signs of a stroke, and that early intervention could at the very least prevent brain injury, and possibly save her life.

Or perhaps stuff like this:

I simply don’t accept that. She was not fated to die. You don’t have to believe me. There is plenty of evidence that tells us that if you intervene early enough you can give someone who is having a stroke at least a fighting chance.

I’ve stated over and over again that yeah, the hospital deserves criticism, scrutiny and blame. The claim that " this exchange started because (I was) angry that anyone would dare to put any blame on the hospital who discharged her." is simply a lie.

But two things: firstly, the extent of the liability of the hospital is unclear at the moment. We know that they discharged her and that they asked the police for assistance to deal with her. But that’s about all we know.

Because secondly, that isn’t the same for the police. Because we have video of the encounter. And we can see each and every opportunity the police had to change the outcome: that they didn’t take.

This is a thread about controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians. So when the police obviously fuck up, I think it’s okay that we focus on that. What we see on that video is not a hospital problem, although problems with the hospital exist. What we see on that video isn’t a Republican problem, even though problems with Republicans exist.

What that video showed was a casual disregard to the life and the dignity of a person that deserved better. That alone deserves a pitting. There is no actions that the police took in that video that are defensible. They had the opportunity to give her a fighting chance at life, but they didn’t take it. Because coffee and oatmeal. On the LORD’s day.

You can ignore all the facts I’ve presented so far and continue to make this personal if you like. I’ll just keep throwing the facts right back at you. I can do that all day.