Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

I am inclined to think that is was to show they were writing tickets on the job rather than off doing something extracurricular.

This kind of thinking is the problem, a knife is for sure a deadly weapon that you will die from especially at the distance Bryant was from the girl in pink. The cops don’t have a wonder tool belt like Batman.

I replied to your post, which is more than I can say about you. What post are you even referring to here?

What is the “this” of which you speak?

Who said anything about a shot to the leg or arm? You just shooting up the hayfields now?

Are you claiming that all knife wounds are fatal? You are claiming that whenever someone is that close, an attack will land, and be fatal, all the time?

If so, then that’s stupid. If not, then what the fuck are you on about?

Who said that they did? What the fuck are you even on about here?

ETA: Ah, I get it. You are stupid, and took @Cheesesteak’s comment about a wonder tool to mean wonder tool belt. Now I see what I am dealing with here.

It’s not that easy to kill a person with one swing of a knife. It definitely wouldn’t have been easy if the cop was actively interfering rather than drawing a gun and getting a bead on the target.

Does the cop try to save both people, or just kill one because it’s simpler that way?

The post where you handwaved away my video description of the incident.

I’d say it would be more likely that the cop misses and kills the girl in pink, than his target manages to land a fatal blow.

At least with a taser, collateral damage is much less likely to be fatal.

Bryant wasn’t slashing, she was stabbing, look at the video. Looked to be lining up for a gut shot to me, and no you won’t be jumping off bridges and running around like Arya Stark after that.

You can easily be killed by slashing as well, like in the neck or leg.

No I said you are the ones saying shoot them in the arm or leg like its Hollywood. He brought up the wonder tool belt. Read the fucking posts.

No one said anything like that. If so, please quote.

Would you like to quote that? If you did, then you would see that you are wrong, again.

Your inability to read basic text on a screen in front of your face makes me not really trust your judgement on who should live and die.

You are either phenomenally stupid, or a flat out liar.

Don’t care which, you aren’t worth the effort. Goodbye. Plonk

Really? No one on the news is saying just shoot them in the arm? I’ve heard it many times today on Sirius, and saw it many times on twitter.

Ok, I get that you are trolling me, but I’ll say for the record that I was clearly saying the people that say “why can’t the police just shoot in the leg or arm” are watching too much Hollywood.

I’ll let my posts stand for themselves.

Great, and since no one said that, then you are just blathering away.

Your posts are there for all to see, and they either show you off to be incapable of the most basic of reading comprehension and reason, or they show you to be incapable of not being entirely disingenuous.

Ok I see you are qualifying it with things said within this thread. In that case I will agree that no one in this thread is saying that from what I can tell. I’ve seen somethings about other means and the taser here though.

The narrative I’m pushing back against is coming from MSM and other sites, not here.

So you agree that you were wrong when you said:

If so, then we are making progress.

Next we will get to where you took @Cheesesteak’s sarcastic comment of “a wonder tool with a 1000 uses” (referring to how cops tend to use their gun to solve any and all problems), and claimed he was talking about a wonder tool belt.

Based on what I know about police procedure and after watching the videos, I think shooting her was the only course of action open to the police. Otherwise you get cops killed. You really expect someone to stop a knife-wielding assailant unarmed? Tasers wouldn’t have worked in time even if you got a good connection. Get within range of a knife? Not bloody likely. So the officer had a binary decision - shoot the person with the knife or let someone get stabbed. They made the right call.

See, I don’t really think he was being sarcastic.

As I said, I don’t know that, at the time he showed up, with the training that he had, this officer did anything wrong. That isn’t to say that the girl deserved to die, as some would say, but it may have been the least tragic result that could have come from this.

However, that is not to say that it couldn’t have been handled better, with better trained people.

There is apparently a video from the first cop on the scene. I’ve not seen that, but he would have had more time to deal with the situation, and if he had done so better, maybe this tragedy could have been avoided.

If that is the case, can you show where he used the word “belt”?

It’s poor judgement like that that makes me doubt your ability to tell who deserves to die.

He was talking to the girl in pink, she came up right away when the cops first got there, unarmed.

Did you actually have a link to this video?

You can understand why I don’t trust your ability to properly describe it, right?

I was being sarcastic. @k9bfriender had it exactly right.

Police in the UK do it all the time, with ‘unarmed’ meaning not using a firearm, and in the last 20 years they’ve had 4 police fatalities from stabbings.

So, yes, stop a knife wielding assailant without a firearm.