Think I just saw that story delivered in “debunk” terms. As in, no, he didn’t.
Here, and I don’t know anything more than this.
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Which cite might that be?
He’s probably referencing this:
The reason the dash cam video and audio are being withheld in Joseph Webster’s case was cited in Article 2, Section 45-221: (30) Public records containing information of a personal nature where the public disclosure thereof would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.
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Investigators also referenced it was the wishes of Weber’s parents to not have that video released. But there is a provision within the new statute, that video in the public’s interest should be released.
If you go back through this thread a ways, you will come to understand that he is referencing a character found in it. One called Smapti, whose rigid advocacy of adherence to the law, verbatim et literatim, would deny every slave the opportunity to escape servitude because the law fully requires them to submit to their masters, without exception. This Smapti caricature insists that one may protest inequities, but only within absolute legal bounds. No law must ever be violated, lest one thereby become a criminal. And criminals, of course, expose themselves to all extremes of enforcement, for which any recourse is unsupportable.
Is this a conterversial encounter between law enforcement and civilians?
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Or is it a war crime? I’m sure she deserved it as she probably wasn’t complying with lawful orders telling her to shut up.
If I recall perzackly, our country was founded by people breaking the law. Its only illegal if you lose.
She was pretty non-compliant and threatening. I am surprised the officers exercised such restraint. If this was a Seagull movie, she would have had those restraints off in seconds, and then broken all of the officer’s patellas.
And inexcusable.
OK so lets say Chelsea United fans riot and they burn down downtown Chelsea. I will certainly start thinking of Chelsea fans as hooligans, even the ones that didn’t riot.
Sure, we can do better although noone seems to be able to answer the question of how badly we are doing. They have only been able to point out that we have not been perfect. Aside from universal body cams, I don’t think there is much low hanging fruit, what am I missing? I think we could use more counseling and training. But that can be expensive and not something we can mandate at the federal level unless we are willing to pay for it at the federal level.
Its rare for a cop to be involved in an unjustified shooting. How many of the thousand cop shootings that resulted in death last year do you think was like Walter Scott where a cop drops a gun on the dead victim’s body? How many do you think were like Terence Crutcher (I think Officer Shelby would probably have gotten away with it if not for the helicopter video; someone would have rolled down that window when noone was looking and that would have been the end of that)? But in order to prevent that result, we should force all cops to have body cameras (with audio that turns on when the gun is unholstered) and we should collect police statements before the video is made available to the police. Police that lie should lose their job and go to jail.
You know there is a difference between getting shot and getting pepper sprayed, right?
What is industrial strength pepper spray? If its better than regular pepper spray then why don’t they use THAT all the time?
The officer is now a Captain.
What about Eric Garner? Or that guy in, was it Mississippi, who was suffocated on the sidewalk? Or the guy who was pepper sprayed because he was having a stroke? Or Freddie Gray? Or the woman who died in jail while a guy watched her death throes through the window?
It is not always about guns. The police seem to view their collars as enemy combatants, deserving of no more empathy than a mouse caught in a glue trap. These are fellow citizens, being dealt a summary punishment that is disproportionate to anything that they might have done (some of them are guilty of nothing, or very little, like the guy in Minnesota who was shot for advising the officer that he had a concealed-carry permit.
And, “how many are justified”? How, in fact, can we even know? It is entirely possible that these “outliers” are actually the tip of the cliché. We have heretofore trusted the police because we had little choice. We may now be seeing that that level of trust has been dreadfully misplaced.
Seeing as how the cops write the reports that become the official version UNLESS CONTRADICTED BY 3RD PARTY VIDEO.
Just between you and me, what part of this are you not getting? The link that has been posted several times in this thread, where the Charleston cop shoots the guy running away then says the guy grabbed his taser? If it were not for the video captured on a cell phone, that shooting would been ruled justified and cop would still be on the beat. Maybe get a commendation. He would have been a hero-cop who won in a battle against a violent thug. It is ONLY because of the video that we now know that the cop was the violent thug.
Here it is for the 4th or 5th time.
Again, were it not for the cell phone video, blah, blah, blah ad naseum.
I gotta tell ya. ALL shootings where the dash cams and body cams are not turned on are suspect.
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Jonathan Livingston Seagull would never do such a thing.
Oh don’t you believe that. He’d peck your eyes out in a second if you didn’t comply!
Okay, so let’s approach this from what appears to be your angle. What do you expect to be gained by encouraging or defending non-compliance?
This thread is not just about shooting. It is about controversial encounters.
You don’t have to shoot someone to degrade, humiliate and ultimately dehumanize them. Did you watch the video? She was rendered unconscious by the pain. Imagine that. You ever bite a habenero? It kind of painful? Imagine it being painful enough that you are knocked out, and are unable to be revived for several minutes.
And this was done to someone who had absolutely no way of defending herself, could not have been resisting in any way, posed no danger at all. The cop just decided to torture her, because he could. Because he thought he could get away with it without repercussion. Because he knew there would be people like you to defend his actions. And yes, you are now defending torture, good luck with that.
It is actions like that that show that the police feel that they are better than the rest of us. That we are subjects to be quelled. If you concentrate on only the times when the police have failed so badly in the first place that they resort to lethal force you are missing the majority of the problem. It is their complete disregard and disrespect for the rights of the people in the communities that they are supposed to be assisting in keeping order.
Yeah, that’s pretty much the definition of prejudice. It may be natural to think that way, but it is the opposite of helpful.
Maybe we can get the police to treat people, ALL people, like their lives matter? Maybe we get them to realize they can no longer kill with impunity.
And you expect to accomplish this by encouraging or defending non-compliance?