That “your” word. Are you addressing your challenge only to those people who explicitly encourage or defend non-compliance? So, the rest of us may safely ignore?
I, for one, would never fucking ever “encourage” non-compliance, for the clear and obvious reason that one might get killed rather than merely abused or humiliated. Did someone say something like “You must stand up for your rights and defy The Man!” Didn’t notice such a thing, would have said something if I had. Kind of a bad plan. Yeah.
So, perzackly, who are these people? What did they actually say, and when, and where? I’d say “put up or shut up” if I had any faith you’d do either.
No one has “encourage or defended” non-compliance. Many have tried to explain that non-compliance isn’t the issue, since non-compliance alone (often due to confusion or some explanation other than a desire to resist) should never be a death sentence but sometimes appears to be.
I believe the point is that we have no idea if it is rare or not. Although I’ll add that the fact that other cops seem to support false reporting quite easily and dependably indicates that it is at least common enough for an unofficial procedure to have developed.
Complying for what? Again, his car was stalled. The encounter goes
“What’s wrong with your vehicle?”
“It’s stalled.”
“Is there a truck or someone on the way? Can we get it out of the street, so there’s no impediment to traffic or chance of an accident? Anything I can help with, or someone I can call? I’ll stay here just to make sure you or your vehicle don’t get hit.”
Crutcher committed no crime. No need or right for forced compliance. Hell, for all the information we actually have, he was heading back to his car to get his registration for the officer. Or his wallet for his driver’s license. Or any of a dozen other perfectly reasonable reasons. Instead, he’s dead because his car broke down and police got scared.
“Might” is a pretty weak reason to shoot any person. A cop “might” shoot a black person for no real, articulable reason, is a black person allowed to preemptively defend themself?
Does it have to be by third party video or can it be police video (like in the case of Terence Crutcher?).
Sure, I agree. That was a bad cop. Are you saying that some appreciable percentage of cop shootings fall into that category?
I don’t think a majority of the PROTESTED shootings fall into the bad shooting category.
Yes, they are at least as suspect as a shooting committed by a private citizen and the law is supposed to treat them with that level of suspicion. I realize that the prosecutors in some places don’t do this and I would support the civil rights division at least examining every police shooting but in the end, even the majority of the cases that people are marching about were justified.
The rioting is even less helpful. And excusing that rioting is ridiculous.
The rioters are undermining the legitimacy of the BLM movement whether you like it or not, if Tea partiers started putting effigies of Obama in a noose and burning that effigy over a burring cross (or carry posters of him with a bone through his nose, or in an arab outfit, or questioned his birth certificate) you might start thinking of the tea partiers as racists even though plenty of them just don’t want to pay taxes and hate Democrats based on political affiliation with no antipathy towards minorities. (Except no one ever made excuses for those guys for being racist)
If Chelsea United fans riot after pretty much every game, then it is not only natural to think of Chelsea United fans as hooligans. The Chelsea united fans would have a deserved reputation as hooligans. Just like the Tea party had a deserved reputation for being racist.
Well, considering how many of the protested shootings seem to be justified when all the evidence is examined (with people continuing to refuse to admit they were justified by saying "well the cop should have looked for ways to “de-escalate” the situation so they wouldn’t HAVE to shoot the guy that was an apparent threat to his life), it seems like these bad police shootings seem to be in the minority, even among the police shootings that are being protested.
I agree we should have universal body cams and dashboard cams but we do have a lot of them and they should be picking up a lot more of this abuse if it is as rampant as everyone seems to think. If it is rampant enough to justify rioting and looting of cities.
And he should have been tasered for refusing to comply with an officer’s lawfully given orders. If he had gotten on the ground instead of moving towards his car, he would still be alive today. With that said, he should not have been killed for failing to follow orders. Its the reason we even have tasers, so that the police have a non-lethal option.
He should have been tasered waaay earlier in the encounter. It would have saved him from being murdered by a nervous Barney Fife cop.