I dunno, especially in light of GTAV moving what… 20,000,000 copies? Literally.
Maybe people will finally pause and realize that mobile is not actually cannibalizing the ‘traditional’ games space in any meaningful way.
LOL. So the claims I’ve seen of 40% are people who don’t understand percentages.
.4% would be amazingly low, though - that’s way under the standard electronics failure rate*.
Haven’t had the chance to play with an XBox One yet, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how cool and quiet the PS4 is.
*as not defined by Microsoft.
Which is tomorrow by the way …
Here’s news about PS4: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-21/gamestop-says-2-3-million-customers-waiting-for-ps4.html?cmpid=yhoo
It will be interesting to see if MS announces 24-hour sell through the way Sony did.
My guess is that they won’t if the number is under 1 million. If they start off trailing in the U.S. they won’t want to admit it because the perception of being the “loser” console is a hard one to shake. Even with a boost from Microsoft’s marketing weakness outside North America, it took Sony years to recover from the botched launch of the PS3.
PS4 replacement in working order. Can’t say I’m as excited as I would have been on 11/15. But Amazon had a pretty quick turnaround so that’s cool.
Microsoft wants everyone to know that they sold a million consoles in about 20 hours. Man, it is going to be a long generation.
Ugh.
To clarify, it was the “long generation” comment, not the sales comment that I was responding to. A decade+ of tablet CPUs, which, ironically, will be surpassed by tablets at some point.
Guess you shouldn’t buy one then.
Problem solved!
Where does it say 20 hours? Did they change the article because that sounds douchy to say?
That actually doesn’t solve the problem at all. If it did, then I wouldn’t care in the slightest bit about any of this.
“Long” as in the constant sniping is going to get tiring. It will surely last the same physical amount of time as always.
The first Xbox One consoles went on sale in Europe around 6 PM on November 21. That article was posted a little after 4 PM on the 22nd. So about 20 hours from the first purchase to the writeup of the article.
I just noticed the timestamp and thought it was funny as Sony’s press release specifically states the sales took place over “the first 24 hours.” Just more gamesmanship.
Aha, my bad. I thought you were trying to say that lots of early sales meant that it’d create such a big software market that they’d end up milking out the current generation and not develop new hardware for a while. As far as “same time as always”, this last generation was unusually long - console generations usually come faster. NES to SNES was 6 years, another 5 to the N64. Another 5 to the gamecube. PS1 to PS2 was 5 years, PS2 to PS3 was 6. Xbox to Xbox 360 was 4 years. I’m actually concerned the hardware development cycles are getting longer, and current architecture aims so low to begin with that the idea of still being bound by them in 2025 is an awful prospect.
As far as the constant sniping - you’re probably right. I kind of find the fights to the death between console preference to be really silly and adorable.
Most of the reviews I’ve read so far are telling people that while there’s a lot of promise with the systems the best thing to do right now is wait. Watchdogs, The Division, and Second Son don’t come out until late Spring and you want to pick up a console once all the bugs are worked out.
For now I’ll upgrade my PC (I have a huge backlog of games) but will take another look next Christmas season. Hopefully by then there’ll be more games, everything will be stable, a winner will start to emerge, and I’ll be able to pick up a new tv to go along.
For me as a PC gamer and looking to add one more to my family (I’m adopting Beef), its coming down more and more to an issue of limited time. There are more games that I want to play on PC right now, that I could ever hope to have time to play. Not to mention the games that will be released tomorrow and into the future.
Do I really need to spend $400-$500 to play the, what, 5 or so exclusives on consoles that I might want to try out specially considering that the majority of these turn out to be disappointments anyway (TLOU, Beyond2Souls), when by doing so I will have to set other games on the PC aside simply because there’s just not enough time?
Right now the answer is absolutely not. In 2 years, that might change, but I doubt it. I crave immersive, deep experiences when it comes to video games and looking through the next gen screenshot thread on Gaf vs the PC screenshot thread there… well it’s laughable.
In 2 years that gap isn’t going to get any narrower. With Nvidia’s G-sync technology, Oculus Rift coming out and saying they are PC exclusive… if there is money and time to be spent on the best gaming experiences out there… that money and time appears, right now, to be better spent on my PC.
Why do you PC guys feel so compelled to jump into every console thread and preach PC superiority? Even when the OP explicitly states he’s not interested in a 3 way discussion about PS4/XB1/PC? Console guys don’t do the reverse of that so why do you feel so compelled to do it to them?
I don’t get it.
A little Rustle in your jimmies?
I think we’ve already answered the OP, and in fact he’s already said what he’s going to do. That done, we’ve moved on to discussing the reality of a lot of doper situations: We’ve got PC’s, are these new boxes worth the time?
If you are done with the thread, as it no longer interest you, you are welcome to get the hell out. Also, I’m not preaching anything I’m stating facts and my opinions on those facts.
Most consoles will have hundreds of exclusives by the time all is said and done. Pretending that they each offer about five games that are worth playing is absurd. The exclusives that are released tomorrow are just as available to console owners as the exclusives available at launch.
By the way, the Wii U has more than five exclusives worth playing already and the PS4/Xbox One are well on their way.
Also, The Last of Us is the second-best reviewed game of the year. Trying to stuff that into the disappointments category is just odd.
Most games are multi-plats.
But here, I’ll give you a nice info graphic of how lopsided this argument is before you go traipsing on yet another futile effort to compare some aspect of console gaming to the PC believing, fervently, that the console is somehow superior:
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1425/14252437/2388965-2386588-este.png
That’s the % of 2013 exclusives rated 80% or more on metacritic. As you can see, PC has got this in the bag. Assuming, that is, that you actually care about the quality of games, and not the marketing of games. I notice a lot of console gamer confuse the two, for some reason.
As for the TLOU it was a disappointment to me.
The gameplay was mediocre at best. The puzzles were hardly that. The graphics are a joke compared to what I’m used to. The only saving grace for that game was the story, which I found excellent and compelling thanks to great writing and great characters.
About half way through I gave the PS3 back to my buddy and watched the rest of the game on you tube and THAT was a much better way to experience that game than actually playing it. Sadly, the same could be said about Beyond, and many other high budget console exclusives. They are movies with occasional button prompts. Something that doesn’t interest me, personally.
Why “press X” to win, when I can be devising the intricate machinations of the Roman empire as they take over the mediterranean?or designing a new rocket to take my little kerbals to Mun?
We’ve been through this so many times before, and the answer is always, as has been said in this thread, and as experience has shown over and over, than you should never be an early adopter. It’s just crazy stupid.
If one or the other was backwards compatible for 360/PS3 games that’d give you your answer, if you had a substantial collection of one or the other, but niehter is, so you’re starting over. And there is just no compelling reason to buy the buggy, title-weak Version 1 of either product. Wait until next year.