Not really. It’s always better for me to have this stuff in writing. Not a big fan of the “all information must come from video” paradigm. Can you tell us what she said?
OTOH, Shimon Bar Sinister, that ancient sage of the anti-vaxxers taught:
Drill Baby Drill!
Thank you for being part of the control group in this experiment. It’s often hard to find volunteers to be part of this group, as they know that they are not going to receive cutting edge treatment.
Often, as in this case, the members of the control group suffer increased disease and even death. Your contribution and sacrifice is noted and appreciated.
The experiment is now concluded with literally billions of data points. You may now take advantage of the knowledge gained, and get yourself immunized.
Not that it any of your business. Wrong you are. My opinion was what I think about ‘why’ the hardcore unvaccinated people don’t get vaccinated.
I do not appreciate the guessing.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say - other than doing a Yoda impersonation.
I think she was trying to be droll when she referred to it as the “experimental vaccine”.
We do not suffer drolls lightly.
I just sent my sister a hundred bucks for getting the second jab.
Money seems to work with some folks.
Congrats!
This could be an incentive.
The whole headline:
An Alabama doctor watched patients reject the coronavirus vaccine. Now he’s refusing to treat them.
In Alabama, where the nation’s lowest vaccination rate has helped push the state closer to a record number of hospitalizations, a physician has sent a clear message to his patients: Don’t come in for medical treatment if you are unvaccinated.
Jason Valentine, a physician at Diagnostic and Medical Clinic Infirmary Health in Mobile, Ala., posted a photo on Facebook this week of him pointing to a sign taped to a door informing patients of his new policy coming Oct. 1.
“Dr. Valentine will no longer see patients that are not vaccinated against covid-19,” the sign reads.
Valentine wrote in the post, which has since been made private but was captured in online images, that there were “no conspiracy theories, no excuses” stopping anyone from being vaccinated, AL.com reported. The doctor, who said at least three unvaccinated patients have asked him where they could get a vaccine since he posted the photo, has remained resolute to those who have questioned his decision in recent days.
“If they asked why, I told them covid is a miserable way to die and I can’t watch them die like that,” wrote Valentine, who has specialized in family medicine with Diagnostic and Medical Clinic since 2008.
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I’m sure many will say this is unethical, but I can’t blame the guy.
My late husband received a kidney transplant August 2, 1992. The transplant patient group (those waiting and those who were post-transplant) were a pretty cozy group. One guy had gotten a transplant from a living donor, his brother. But he screwed around and didn’t take care of himself and that transplant failed. The docs took him off the list for a future transplant – not for strictly medical reasons, but for irresponsible behavior.
I think there are times when consciously, blatantly irresponsible behavior should disqualify you from medical treatment.
From taking an extremely scarce resource (like a kidney) from others – sure. From routine treatment? Honestly, I have problems with that. Where does it end?
The scarcity principle can apply even in “routine treatment.” For one thing, a doctor’s time is not an endless resource. That’s why there’s triage.
I don’t think “Where does it end?” is a useful question here.
My employer (over 100,000 employees worldwide) just announced yesterday that they were requiring all employees and contract employees to either show proof of vaccination by Sept. 30, or submit to twice weekly covid testing.
Not forcing them to get the jab but just making it reaaally inconvenient for them not to get it.
Good call!
I kinda agree with your sentiments but I’m curious about what he did that made his new kidney fail. Fail to take the immune suppression meds, get dehydrated or what.
A liver transplant I could see a number of ways, but kidneys?
It was over 30 years ago and even at the time I wasn’t privy to all the details. Sorry. IDK.
Read this in the comments section of a HuffPost article about talking to anti-vaxxers:
“If you don’t need a mask or a vaccine because God will protect you, then why do you need a gun?”
Ba-da-bing!
Nobody is being forced to go without medical care because this doctor made this choice. There are many medical offices that don’t mask and doctors who don’t care, they can go to an office that is more accepting of their bullshit.
I’m not a fan of pharmacists being allowed to point a woman to a different pharmacy for the ‘morning after pill’ because the first pharmacist objects to its use on ‘religious grounds.’
Neither am I a fan of a florist, baker, wedding photographer, etc., etc., being able to turn away customers because of their status as a protected class.
“Go somewhere else” was the answer for decades, and threatens to be the answer again.
San Diego firefighters – often tasked to appear in endless parades of all kinds – were quitting rather than follow orders to appear in a gay pride parade.
Do first responders really get to make this kind of call ?
This one’s not sitting all that well with me. It does have significant potential for blowback.
ETA: and, last Saturday, I lost an old and dear friend to COVID at age 58. I have to assume that she (and her husband) decided against getting the vaccine. I’m as sick of these Refusniks as anybody.
My S-I-L, a pediatrician, and her practice stopped accepting any new patient whose parents won’t vaccinate (routine childhood vaccinations, not covid). This decision was made after an unvaccinated child died of whooping cough. Most new parents have agreed to go along with it.
But businesses who turn away customers who are in protected classes are in violation of the law. (And the SCOTUS Master Cakes case did not establish otherwise.) “Unvaccinated” is not a protected class. A patient could claim their religious beliefs prohibit vaccination, but since Dr. Valentine is denying service to ALL unvaccinated people, the refusal is not based on that patient’s status as a member of a protected class. If a restaurant denies entry to any customer not wearing shoes, it’s not religious discrimination if someone whose religious beliefs prohibit wearing shoes is not admitted.