With a username like that, I would have expected your first comment to be about Austria’s innovative use of snow cannons to stem the pandemic. ![]()
Question- almost everyone hospitalized for Covid has had some pre-existing condition.
What did Boris Johnson have?
I’d wondered if, even without any other pre-existing conditions, perhaps he was a smoker, but this recent article indicates that there’s no strong evidence that he’s currently a smoker.
Fairly recent ex-smoker, slightly overweight, likes a drink, previously a heavy user of [REDACTED], stressed out of his mind?
Source?
I know that “pre-existing conditions” makes it more likely the disease will get bad, but my understanding was that anyone could get quite ill. Or maybe anyone over age 25 or so.
I think this is far from true. Unless you count being an overweight, 50 year old male smoker, with probably not the healthiest of diets, a pre-existing condition.
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I said hospitalization.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/nearly-90percent-of-people-hospitalized-for-covid-19-have-underlying-conditions-says-cdc/ar-BB12pf0p?li=BBnb7Kz
In a new study published for the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, researchers found that the majority of those hospitalized due to COVID-19 have preexisting conditions—about 90% of patients, or nearly all, had one or more underlying conditions. The most common, per the CDC, include hypertension (49.7%), obesity (48.3%), chronic lung disease (34.6%), diabetes mellitus (28.3%), and cardiovascular disease (27.8%).
So, I am gonna guess Boris with hypertension & Obesity. He used to be a smoker, not now, apparently.
Concurred. Though, if he had previously been a serious smoker (which admittedly, may be difficult to say if he was or not), he might have lung issues, as well.
Just as I expected, Cleveland19.com says odh is reporting Suspected cases as Corona. A way to inflate the numbers.
Because, according to the governor, including suspected cases is in line with guidance from the CDC.
Untrue.
While a significant percentage of people in the hospital had pre-existing/chronic conditions it is far from “almost everyone”. Quite a few people with no known risk factors who were young and healthy have wound up in the hospital, in intensive care, on a ventilator, or even dead.
He’s 55 - not in a huge risk category but old enough his age alone increases his risk - and overweight.
“Hospitalized” is not a uniform standard for severity of the disease. It’s very possible that standards for hospitalization are much lower for VIP patients like Boris Johnson.
NOT reporting suspected cases would be a great way to artificially lower the numbers.
Yeah, one would think that the CDC would be trying to keep the numbers down instead.
I’d consider 90% = almost everyone. See my cite.
The dumbest thing about SuntanLotion’s post is that he says “cleveland19” is reporting it, as though this was some bombshell expose from a crack team of reporters.
What he meant to say was that cleveland19 is reporting the governor’s own words, as Mike DeWine explained in great detail during the daily coronavirus briefing today that ODH will now report suspected cases and deaths alongside confirmed cases and deaths, because WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TESTS. I cannot imagine a more transparent way to present the information as given, and yet he or she is trying to shroud it in mystery.
I’m not sure I understand your tone here. Why would the CDC have any incentive to bias the number one way or another? Other than the fact that the CDC is part of the executive branch of the US government, and the guy in charge of that branch seems to want low numbers.
10% of hospitalized patients is still a fair number of people. So I’d say it’s still true that anyone could get that ill.
– I had a thought about those percentages: to what extent do they reflect the number of people in a given age group who have the condition? That is, if 41% of the people 65 and up who were hospitalized for covid-19 were obese, but the prevalence of obesity among the general population of people over 60 is 42.8%, is obesity actually a risk factor?
Hmm, that explains all of the industrial sizes of food suddenly showing up my local supermarket. There were bags of dried pasta the size of pillows.
You just answered your own question. ![]()