Way to not get what he was talking about. :rolleyes:
What DrDeth said.
You actually made my point – so much of the discussion is about personality, the past, and borderline judgments on how long to lock down.
Meanwhile, Obama’s CDC chief is saying pretty much the same as Trump’s does when DJT isn’t around:
Former CDC director says coronavirus contact tracing will need 300,000 workers
Gosh, perhaps if more than 40% of Americans bothered to get their flu shot this fall we might have an easier time of things. :dubious:
Oh, I fully understand his point of overloading the health care system even more than we are right now come winter but my point is that the current situation is still on-going. By using language like he did, he makes himself look like a fucking idiot because, as I just said, the situation is still on-going. We haven’t finished the first wave yet and talking as tho we have is not helpful at all IMO.
I am unable to understand so many numbers. I have latched onto tracking only the number of Americans dead from this disease each day. I a mkeeping a tally. This is simple enough for me to grasp.
Yesterday 2,804 Americans died. That is a shocking number.
2,557,503 total cases
177,661 dead
690,672 recovered
In the US:
819,164 total cases
45,340 dead
82,973 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
Remember when we passed a million cases worldwide? Remember how terrible that seemed? Yeah, that was about three weeks ago.
Although the headline says the virus “came from an animal and was not made in a lab”, that conclusion (which I accept, FTR) has no bearing on the “second scenario”. The USA Today article offers no reason to believe that second scenario is not true, but the headline strikes me as purposely misleading.
Going by the statistics Snowboard Bo posted, the count is 2,823. I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep syaing it: “Cry, the Beloved Country”. This cannot go on like this much longer.
Did a quick search. Based on one doctor on quora, rates of survival on ventilators for non-covid patients are better, but of course it depends on the underlying problem. Even the rates of survival for covid patients varies a lot. The 80% rate that Cuomo gave looks pretty bad but isn’t so far off a study the guy in the quora answer gave which was 70% for covid patients.
Another retired doctor blogger published 3 weeks ago which is like a lifetime in this process.
But similar stats. 66% covid patients died. 36% non-covid patients die on average.
According to this source “excess” deaths in New York City during Mar. 11 - Apr. 18 were 17,200 compared with 13,240 deaths attributed to Covid-19. If we assume these unaccounted excess deaths were due to the virus and extrapolate the City’s rate to the State, we see 1300 deaths per million, not just 1000.
I don’t see focus on a particular statistic which seems especially frightening. Looking at the U.S. numbers from Dr. Drake’s link, we see 819.2k total cases, 45.3k deaths, 83.0k recoveries. In 35% of “cases which had an outcome,” the outcome was death. This leaves 691,000 cases which supposedly have not yet had an outcome.
So what’s with the 691,000 “no-outcome” cases? Are these mostly mild cases which recovered at home but weren’t accounted for? How many people are hospitalized in the U.S. with Covid-19 right now?
Unfortunately, it sure can. And probably will until this nation has a nationwide, science-based plan for controlling this epidemic. And that won’t happen until…[sentence falls of the edge of the forum]
Yeah. What I was insinuating is that the fools continuing to screw things up will get us all killed sooner than later.
Quite a few of them are probably people who are still sick. They have “no-outcome” because they’re still on-going.
Remember, even people with “mild” cases (meaning only “not bad enough to require a stay in the hospital”) can be sick with this for 2 weeks or more.
I don’t know if this has been posted already, but this New York Times story makes the impact of coronavirus chillingly vivid, by presenting graphs of excess mortality over historical averages for several different countries—also making the case that there is a substantial amount of unaccounted for deaths that aren’t included in the official coronavirus fatality rates.
Why the bad language? Do you think it makes your message stronger or more clear? Do you think people read the word “fuckface” and automatically assume your a genius?
Any insight into how NYC is now? Are fewer people taking public transport? Are more staying home? Are their people leaving the city?
And just now I see septimus already posted a link to this like three posts above mine. Sorry!
Assume that his a genius what?
Josh says some had been arguing for a true COVID-19 death rate of as low as 0.1% of those infected; this is now impossible even if we make the assumption that every NYC resident would test positive for the virus.