Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News

23,584,259 total cases
812,517 dead
16,082,104 recovered

In the US:

5,874,146 total cases
180,604 dead
3,167,063 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

When you understand the science, you understand how it ultimately hurts businesses to reopen too soon. Governors should be able to convince businesses that that’s true. There’s no compromise here.

Here’s some news:

Florida judge rules that an order signed by the Florida Education Commissioner requiring schools to reopen is unconstitutional.

23,811,693 total cases
817,005 dead
16,360,536 recovered

In the US:

5,915,630 total cases
181,114 dead
3,217,981 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

The world will pass 24,000,000 total cases tomorrow.

The US will pass 6,000,000 total cases by Thursday, perhaps as early as Wednesday.

Oahu will be under a new stay-at-home lockdown for two weeks starting at 12:01am this Thursday morning. All unnecessary businesses to be shut again, restaurants will return to takeout only.

24,061,215 total cases
823,513 dead
16,608,597 recovered

In the US:

5,955,728 total cases
182,404 dead
3,254,282 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

To add to that, the State of Hawaii recorded 215 new cases today for a total case count of 6984. Deaths number 49.

We’ve had a couple weeks of triple-digit cases, usually in the 200s and one in the mid-300s. The recent closure of beaches and parks don’t seem to have made a dent, thus the new lockdown.

There seems to be some confusion about some changes made to the CDC directives for testing:

More on that:

Well, trump has found the magic way to bring case count down: stop testing so much.

Not getting why so much alarm.

Close exposure results in an advised 14 day quarantine. Some get a negative test, maybe taken day 3 or 4, and think that means they are clear. But even negative on day 7 you need to behave as if you could still become sick up to day 14. It is at least arguably better to eliminate potentially false reassurance of no risk of contagiousness.

If you are quarantined then knowing you were a persistently asymptomatic infection is of fairly minor impact.

Meanwhile demand outpacing throughput capacity is having negative impacts for getting test results of more decision making importance.

The alarm is because this is one more way of the administration presenting a false picture of the overall COVID situation. “The case numbers are down! See, things are getting way better!”

Interesting sidebar on that:

There might be a reason, though, why the new recommendation “makes no sense” — White House Coronavirus Task Force member Dr. Anthony Fauci was literally unconscious when the decision was made.

“I was under general anesthesia in the operating room and was not part of any discussion or deliberation regarding the new testing recommendations,” Fauci told CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. He added: “I am concerned about the interpretation of these recommendations and worried it will give people the incorrect assumption that asymptomatic spread is not of great concern. In fact it is.”

And we are supposed to believe that it was unintentional that Dr. Fauci was under anesthesia while this was decided? Of course Dr. Fauci wouldn’t have been responsible enough to inform the Task Force that he wouldn’t be able to be there so how could they have known?

I’ve been told I need to put /sarcasm/ here so it will be clear.

If we are at 5 million rest assured we are really at 50,000,000 and most likely the super spreaders and active spreaders have mostly been infected already. It looks like by the 1st of the year we should be able to get back to some semblance of normalcy as long as we are ok with assuming some risk

So somehow all the super-spreaders were in your estimated 50,000,000 people who’ve had the virus? None of the remaining 280,000,000–82% of the US population–are super-spreaders, eh?

Yeah, not convinced.

24,332,280 total cases
829,666 dead
16,873,307 recovered

In the US:

6,000,365 total cases
183,653 dead
3,313,861 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

I said most of the super spreaders, that would mean more than 50%.

That doesn’t change the math. You’re claiming more than 50% of super-spreaders are in a mere 18% of the population, and with neither data nor logic to back that up.

Still not convincing.

There is an element of opportunity that is necessary for one to be a ‘super-spreader’ or for there to be a super-spreading event. I guess we’ll need to figure out what happens when those who have been in relative hiding come out of their caves and start going to church and such, but the notion here is that, going forward, those who will be in close quarters or on front lines have probably already been in close quarters or on front lines.

probably is not a word they use in science much.