Bad news, everyone.
They seem to be backpedaling on that.
But no doubt the ever-responsible media will keep trumpeting it just as they are doing with every young case in this country. Glancing over the headlines in the last few days, you’d have no idea elderly people are affected by this at all.
Nope, here they are.
Italy age distribution:
So, the elderly are vastly over represented amongst the diagnosed cases, strongly implying many undiagnosed younger cases.
And this article from JAMA today shows mortality patterns in Italy are similar to everywhere else, based on week old data:
:dubious:
You mean the same “ever-responsible media” you just cited for a correction?
:rolleyes:
Gavin Newsom attributed the kid’s death to the virus. And the “child” was 17.
Sure, those same media sources, who had all of that information in an article with a headline implying none of it.
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President of Brazil hates Brazilians; wants them to die (maybe? or maybe something else?):
:rolleyes:
You mean the one you didn’t link to? That one? Or were there many and you didn’t link to any of them?
Stupid 502/504 errors…
The story had none of those details when I posted the link and quote; do you think I or they would deliberately withhold information? Why would you think that and why would you think anyone would do that?
It was CNN, ftr. But really it’s a general thing.
“Doctors told 21 year old soccer coach he had nothing to worry about, then he died of Covid the next day”. Open the article, then they mention that he actually had acute leukemia. Seriously.
It’s understandable… it’s a tough time, there’s a lot of competition for clicks.
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:rolleyes:
No, but I think the online media are strongly incentivised to use the most clickworthy headlines they can. I certainly wasn’t implying you were deliberately withholding any information.
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Duly noted; thanks for your contributions to this thread.
Yeah. A few weeks ago I would not have predicted that the US (and for that matter so many other countries) would apparently be in the back seat with the virus driving at this point, when there are “model” countries (Taiwan was also cited just a bit upthread) that have shown more control. This really has to burn Trump’s biscuits, seeing China potentially surge on ahead with manufacturing etc, while the US gets shut down (and probably motivates some of the republican “quietus for grandma” rhetoric). I really think POTUS and the republicans would make a lot better use of their time going hard at the public health angle, instead of getting so obsessed by the economy in the short term: tackle the public health challenge first, then sort through the wreckage and revitalize the economy. Honestly, POTUS seems so exclusively fixated on the economy and not the public health stuff it’s kind of surreal. The brick wall is the looming spiraling death toll from a public health standpoint, and he seems unable to not keep running into it.
Good responses come from good preparation, which Taiwan did in spades. They had already done much of the preparation work by having detailed plans for a response to epidemics.
A number of reports in the media has written about the good responses by Taiwan and certain other countries including Singapore. Taiwan had caught wind of the problem in the end of December and was screening people on flights from Wuhan from December 31.
They have good reason to be afraid. They normally have millions of visitors from China annually, and about 400,000 Taiwanese work there. It could have been a complete disaster.
Was not.
422,829 confirmed infections
18,907 dead
109,102 recovered
In the US:
54,867 confirmed infections
782 dead
378 recovered
Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:
Ah, well; I hope he’s doing good things besides. Thank you very much for the news from Taiwan.
Interesting links and thank you for them but not exactly what I was hoping would be available: a comparison between countries of death rates per million by age cohort.
In terms of the 17 year old who died. Would love clinical details! Sadly this will not be the last death of someone under 18 years old due to COVID-19. Those 18 and under are 24% of the United States population, some with multiple chronic illnesses and disabilities, and presumptively (whether the cases get diagnosed or not) will be roughly 24% of all infections, even if most end up not getting diagnosed as such. Assuming this death is attributable to COVID-19, then that 24% of the population has resulted in 0.12% of U.S. deaths. It is notable how rarely those under 18 are getting significantly ill or died, but a rare event will still become a significant number absolutely with a larger enough n.
Another math check. Today Fauci stated
NYC population is a bit over 8.6 million. That statement implies that currently there are about 8600 individuals in NYC (0.1% of the population, one per 1,000) who are infected but either not yet sick but will become sick over the next 5 to 6 days, or will stay asymptomatic (but potentially contagious for some period).
Currently NYC is experiencing about 2400 to 2500 new positive cases a day. His statement implies that the current daily reported positive case number is an accurate to slightly overstated reflection of the numbers of infection (inclusive of those who never get diagnosed for a variety of reasons), and likely to stay flat for at least the next five days rather than to rise exponentially.
I am a bit incredulous. It seems more likely that even with testing rolled out they are likely missing many of the infected and that growth closer to exponential than flat is more likely for at least the near term.
Several days ago, a group of 114 young Israeli Hassidim who had been studying in Brooklyn flew back to Israeli, where they were quarantined and tested. 65 of them tested positive. I’m not saying they’re representative of Brooklyn or NYC as a whole, but it’s interesting.
Possible genuine hope:
Long story short: harvest plasma from people who have recovered, which will be chock full of antibodies that can boost the immune system when injected. As a treatment, it goes way back, even to the Spanish flu. The FDA has approved initial trials. Could be a big help.
My agnostic prayer goes out: to Whom it may concern…