Coronavirus will finish Trump's presidency

I don’t want a single person to die from this disease, but if Trump loses, any deaths will not have been in vain.

So, to this point…

McConnell Has a Request for Veteran Federal Judges: Please Quit

The odds of elderly judges leaving their high-paying, high-benefit government jobs during a combo global pandemic + Bigly Depression (the bigliest!) approaches 0%.

Point being, for the purposes of this thread, it is highly unlikely McConnell will be making this move if he thought the Republicans were going to have a good chance in November.

I would like to think that a significant percentage of these judges, even though they were Republican-nominated, are keen enough to be suspicious of McConnell’s claims of “worthy” successors. “Oh, sure, I will retire from my lengthy and esteemed career so you can nominate Eric Trump to be my replacement.”

“But Judge Ivanka, I had to shoplift those Miu Mius. The Jimmy Choos just weren’t sparkly enough!”

If I’m a biased older judge, don’t you think I already know this? McConnell doesn’t realize that for a lot of them, they don’t want to retire, working gives them a reason to wake up in the morning. The same could be said for a lot of other older employees.

There might be some that are politically blind and don’t realize there’s a chance Trump could lose in the fall.

Its hard to see what Trump is going to run on. The two things his supporters point to in terms of accomplishments is a great economy and conservative judges. The corona virus has shattered the economy, and the conservative judges accomplishment is only going to work for those in his base, not for the public at large. My guess is that he will still try to run on the economy by taking credit for it up until February and then saying the Corona-virus wasn’t his fault, but that argument has too much subtlety for the average voter.

Trump’s supporters are totally insane. Just really turn out the vote and hope to swamp them.

The same as he ran on before - schoolyard taunts and insults, made up nonsense and petty grievances, lies and lies and more lies. Only this time he’ll have goo-gobs more money to blanket the media.

Trump will run on the fact that his crazy base keeps supporting him no matter what he does, and on trying to make ‘the other guy’ look as bad as he does. I do think the Wall Street collapse is one of the few things that can hurt him with his base - even the most fanatical MAGA racists will think twice about voting for a president who has DOW drop by 1/3, and Americans typically give the full blame/credit for the economy to the president. The absurdly inept handling of Coronavirus might not alienate his base, but will probably strongly motivate people who aren’t his base to vote, as it both casts his flaws into sharp relief and isn’t something that can easily be glossed over. “He’s pissed off our NATO allies” isn’t going to get people out of bed (a decent number of Americans would like us to cut back our foreign wars, and others just like the idea of pushing around snotty Eurotrash), but ‘he’s completely fumbled a major disaster that impacts everyone in the US’ has a lot more bite to it. I mean, 9/11 basically delayed sports for a week, it’s looking like Coronavirus is going to kill an entire season!

Plus, the Russian troll farms are already trotting out the “Biden is mentally incompetent” garbage, that is being re-posted by useful idiots everywhere.

Oooh, that would be a neat campaign ad:

“March Madness was canceled. Why? Donald Trump.”

He built his brand on MAGAt rallies. He’s not going to have those to froth up his base this time around, at least for a few months.

I think “The economy was doing great until Corona virus, which nobody could have predicted or protected against,” is probably going to work pretty well. It’s a simple enough narrative, and basically true - this would have fucked up our economy under Hillary, too. The details about Trump gutting the CDC and the many ways he’s fumbled the response is going to be dismissed as liberal whining and attempting to politicize the outbreak. I doubt this is going to actually affect his re-election chances, unless it causes a significant portion of his base to literally die.

The amount of effort y’all put into conversations about what will move his base always astounds me.

They’re not going to be moved. They’re his base.

The goal is to move those on the margins, and those people? He’s lost them.

He can talk about the COVID-19 impact on the economy until he’s blue in the face, but there’s not a single person outside his base… facing a deceased family member… who will forget who was President when this thing erupted, and won’t blame that guy.

Coronavirus will finish Trump’s presidency

No, it won’t.

This is perfectly true. Trump’s base now has a go to excuse for a shitty economy- It wasn’t Trump’s fault. The economy is not an issue for his base. I guess the question is: How many of the people that voted for him are loyal members of his base?

Yup.

And if the polls aren’t good, well, my local town election just got cancelled. It’s an emergency, of course.

It, and a DJIA which is already underwater from the Obama years, will.

He’s toast. The only thing which can save him is the complete shutting down of elections… and even that won’t save him from a hungry, angry mob looking for those responsible.

I mean, when y’all say this, are you assuming that every single one of his 2016 voters are going to vote for him in 2020? Because, frankly, that is never the case, even with popular Presidents.

2016 Trump voters > his base. It’s that simple.

I would expect that covid cases will surge among his base. They have been more misinformed, had science denial pushed on them, and have a history of denial before that. And they are in a news bubble.

Taking precautions is a liberal thing. If the R party has gone blood simple, basically only existing to own libs, they will be at risk in the world.