Regarding Trump’s vow to get America back in gear by Easter: I confess to having a little devil on one shoulder cackling “Sure, Trump: try that and see how it works out for you”. Unless all the experts are wrong, the numbers are going to be dramatically higher a month from now, no matter what we do. But if Trump has relaxed any of the guidelines, people are going to associate the worsening of the pandemic with the actions they saw him take right before that, even if that’s not strictly true.
No, I think he’d be a tougher opponent for Biden than Trump would be. I believe that although Trump’s “appeal” that you refer to is a big part of why he was successful in the GOP primaries, it did not really help him in the general election. It did bring in some new voters to his side, but I suspect he lost more than he gained, and that has only accelerated since then. I believe if Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio had been nominated, they would have beaten Hillary Clinton easily and would now be favorites for reelection.
The one wildcard here is that Pence is still a pretty extreme member of the Christian right. He would be a weaker nominee than a less extreme guy, but his “I’m a conservative, but I’m not mad about it” mien is still going to be appealing to a lot of people.
I won’t disagree with you about that. I can see him succeeding with some states, failing with others.
That will cause a whole new nightmare. Can you imagine, Florida reopens everything, because yay Trump!, but Georgia, which has been hit harder so far, keeps everything in lockdown. Does Georgia then close their border with Florida, allowing no one from Florida to travel into Georgia (for example)?
Will it be a situation like Governor Cuomo was talking about, how if you don’t close down everything at once then citizens will just travel to where things are open, potentially carrying the virus with them or bringing it back home.
What makes you think it’s going to top out at “bad flu season”? It would have to infect FAR fewer people than catch the flu every year for that to be the case.
This “bad flu season” drove most Asians and Europeans into lockdown. Yeah, just a lib-media-DeepState* hoax. Well, except for that exponential curve stuff. Medical scientists not relying on the insightful intestines of Putin’s puppy project that curve to steepen. But what do they know? So what if the new normal is already overwhelming many states? Let a few million Americans die. Texas’s LtGov is looking for elderly volunteers. Nice.
If a deepstate actually existed, this God-Emperor would not be in the Oval Office.
I do think Trump’s 49% approval rating will gradually sink as the pandemic worsens, and even 49% isn’t exactly favorable for his reelection.
That being said…
For years now, Democrats have been leaping eagerly at this or that - “***This ***is going to be what ends Trump’s presidency!” “No, no, ***this ***is what will end it!” and on and on and yet Trump still hasn’t sunk. Not that he is invincible, but I think many Ds underestimate just how resilient the guy and his support is.
But here’s the thing: He’s only been on the ballot in one election. Oh yeah sure, he won the electoral college, but he got spanked in the popular vote. A majority of people didn’t like him then, and a majority of people don’t like him today. And the electoral victory he scored was precarious. Then in the midterms, while he wasn’t on the ballot, it’s safe to say he got spanked, and he got spanked in all the right places.
I’m not saying he’s gonna lose in November, but just because he hasn’t gotten taken down by scandal while in office doesn’t mean his support is strong.
Right. He’s never been super strong politically, not among the overall general electorate. It’s just that it’s frustrating that he is not nearly as weak as he ought to be given his incredibly blatant, obvious unfitness for office.
And I’d add that it always nags at me that his approval ratings were significantly (not massively, but significantly) lower in 2017 than they have ever been for any sustained period since. What’s up with that?
The only way the Coronavirus ends Trump’s presidency is if it kills him. Otherwise he wins re-election. Too many people like him, and the electoral college is weighted in their favor.
Take a cylinder, if someone sees it from the side it looks like a square, if someone sees it from the top it looks like a circle. Some people set themselves into the side view perspective and reject all others, it’s a square they say with absolute conviction and yes, from their point of view it looks like a square.
Of course other people will do the other thing, only looking at things from the perspective that it’s a circle and the people that see a square are stupid, liars or both.
How does that quote go, “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing”.?*
By rejecting other points of view people end with a 2D representation of a 3D problem; so they may try to put the round peg through the square hole and it doesn’t work (OK geometrically this is not correct, but I hope you see the analogy). Bafflement ensues, “it’s square why doesn’t it fit!?” they’ll protest.
The smart thing is to try and see things from a different perspective to asses what the true shape may be. The stupid thing to do is to hold fast to the one’s view and think the problem lies elsewhere.
To fix a problem one must first understand the problem beyond a preferred frame of reference, what I see now is the opposition to Trump being stuck in a Graveyard Spiral:
[Graveyard spirals are the result of several sensory illusions in aviation which may occur in actual or simulated IMC, when the pilot experiences spatial disorientation and loses awareness of the aircraft’s attitude. In other words, the pilot loses the ability to judge the orientation of their aircraft due to the brain’s misperception of spatial cues.
…it is the pilot’s sense of equilibrium which leads to the spiral dive. Flying by “the seat of the pants”, and failing to recognize and/or respond to instrument readings, is the most common source of controlled flight into terrain, where an airplane controlled by a pilot hits the ground.](Graveyard spiral - Wikipedia)
Translate that into politics and I hope you’ll see what I mean, the sense of equilibrium comes from one’s own frame of reference, limiting oneself to that as the only input can literally led to a crash and burn situation.
I looked it up, it was Alexander Pope
“A little learning is a dangerous thing. Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring; There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.”
Well the democrats picked a 77 year old white guy to beat a 73 year old white guy.
I wonder when the young people are going to become aware of this?
Democrats are imposing martial law, all for a disease that mostly effects the elderly. In Italy for example 6,800 have died but NONE of them under age 29. Only 14 age 30-39, 46 age 40-49. Its really only after age 60 does it really get serious. LINK
Hopefully people and especially young democratic voters will wake up and see how the MSM (and their democratic establishment masters) are cooking the statistics and creating a mess thats hurting them WAY more than its hurting the elderly many of whom are already on pensions and social security.
Too bad the youth of today have no voices. They did have that Cortez woman but they kicked her to the curb quick when she dared challenge Biden.
This bears repeating. I understand it completely but very, and I do mean very, few people on this board will even understand what you mean.
Hell, they still argue that this board* isn’t *a liberal bastion against all things Republican.
TLDR; You can’t see the entire argument because you are blinded by the brilliance of those rose colored glasses for your “side”
You’re assigning conservative values to liberals. That’s not how it works. Most young people tend to lean liberal. Liberals care about people besides themselves. They care that old people are dying. Liberals are OK with making some sacrifices so that the rest of society is better. Your hope that young people will become callous and unfeeling is not realistic.