CNN.com is now running the following top-of-page screaming red “DEVELOPING STORY” banner:
So the sum total of the news is, “Soon there will be news!!”
This is getting pathetic. :rolleyes:
IE just crashed so I lost my post before I could submit, so here is an abbreviated version.
From a CNN interview with a 1 star general with the chemical unit investigating the sites. Look for a transcript later on CNNs website.
Suspected WMD at training camp: Almost certainly pesticides. Sick soldiers determined to have heat exhaustion and prickly heat – no chemical exposure.
Suspected WMD at agricultural site: Intial tests inconclusive. Chemical testing vehicles brought in and currently they have positives for nerve agent and blister agent. Can not rule out pesticides at this time, although signature does not match pesticides that they have trained with. Additional testing needed. Suspect chemical not weaponized.
Nothing about any missiles with chemical warheads. This sounds like incorrect reporting possibly caused because rockets (not missiles) were found at the agricultural site.
Every report I’ve read said the agricultural site is 60 miles south of Baghdad, while the chemical rockets were found near Baghdad Internation Airport. Since when was BIA 60 miles south of Baghdad, or considered an agricultural site for that matter?
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Remind me again why I wouldn’t want Diogenes to have any input on our national security policy? Oh yeah… that’s why.
Yeah, well, the guys from the People’s Republic of Minnesota, what can you expect? You know, round here, they don’t even let you carry a concealed weapon when you go drinking? No shit!
Down home, we know that when you get hit, you hit back and hit back hard! And if you can’t get the guy what done it, grab somebody handy and whip his ass.
It’s rockets, short range unguided (Katuysha like), not missiles as was reported.
Lifts arms to heaven IT’S CALLED FACT CHECKING!!!
I would be ashamed to be a part of the major media right now. Seriously, how can you take pride in rushing the story so much, every time, over and over, that the facts ARE NEVER RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!
Sorry, that was directed at the news business…
Oh, well, if it’s only rockets, then, I guess it’s o.k.
And of course, if they are unguided, then it’s not as if they were going to be aimed at anything specific, just kind of fired in the general direction of, um, gee, who? And if they didn’t land very close, oh, I guess it wouldn’t make any difference, would it?:rolleyes:
The “coalition of the bribed” are in the Saddama’s capital and he hasn’t used his WDM (if has them yet) this war was sold with the argument that: “… We can’t wait a couple of weeks, it’s dangerous”. I don’t know why but the expression caveat emptor comes to mind.
It goes to media credibility, MLS. Try reading my last post again from the perspective of media criticism. I don’t know how you read it as anything but media criticism. YMMV.
Jeez, just look at those barrels? They are full of high tech super whoopity deadly nerve gas? Hell, maybe they’re full of Jimmy Hoffa!
You guys just gotta climb down off this WMD thing. It started out with Fearless Misleader screaming about nuclear weapons that he was absitively posolutely sure Saddam was gonna have in a matter of weeks. That’s what “WMD” meant then. Now its gonna be any lame ass WWI technology like fuckin’ mustard gas!
Who do we think we’re kidding?
Honest to Pete, I don’t have an opinion. An Evil Old Bugger like Saddam might have nasty shit, or he might not. Either way, its because he’s an EOB, not because of the warmth of his heart.
Just about nobody on this planet believes we attacked Saddam because we were afraid of him, most especially after a casualty rate that approaches 20 to 1, half of that from sheer fuck-ups.
The only up side, the cherry on this turd sundae, is that our soldiers are the best trained, intelligent, and, most important, humane soldiers. Bar none. They went where they didn’t belong, and did what they shouldn’t have been asked to do, and did it with honor. I am proud of them.
But I am not likely to ever forgive the men who put them there.
Or maybe they’re full of the relevant content of Lucy’s posts!! :rolleyes:
Remember, children, the whole “proof” thing works both ways: While it is important for those screaming “Nerve gas!” to wait for proof, it is equally important for those screaming “Illegal invasion! Me no likey Bush! Scratch testicles!” to wait for counter-proof. One incoherent rant does not deserve another.
Oh, my. Cut to the quick, and stuff. Cry myself to sleep with my banky.
Several of the darn things had Open Bung Holes ! Only a madman would store Sarin or mustard gas outside, in hundred degree heat, in open containers; and if the troops had opened them for sampling, they sure as hell wouldn’t let reporters anywhere near them while said deadly containers were still open !
Exceptin maybe Geraldo, of course 
Does he have an e-mail? We could tell him where it is.
Beagle, what’s the difference between missiles and rockets? Honest question - in my mind, the terms are interchangeable (though if I were to think about it, a “missile” is self-propelled unmanned airborne ordnance shaped like a penis and a “rocket” is a missile with a particular type of engine).
Sua
Heck, why would Saddam Hussein store his Sooper-Secret Caches of Forbidden WMDs in rusty old barrels out in the open? You’d think he’d follow the Evil Villian conventions and at least have a hidden, high-tech vault for that sort of stuff…
1992: We know Clinton is a creature of pure evil, therefore he has committed unspeakable crimes, and all we have to do is find the facts to support what we already know. (Years of fruitless searching later) He had a blowjob! That’s it! Told ya so, ya stoopid lib’ruls! (happy dance) Ah, sweet vindication - we were right all along!
2002: We know Saddam is a creature of pure evil bent on destroying us, therefore he has the weapons to do so, and all we have to do is find the facts to support what we already know. (Unknown period of fruitless searching later, but not yet) There’s a couple of barrels with some dried-up residue out in the desert! That’s it! Told ya so, ya stoopid lib’ruls! (happy dance) Ah, sweet vindication - we were right all along!
Same psychology. Same “reasoning”. Mainly the same people doing it. Some ignorance is simply impervious to the fight.
Look at iot this way: on the bright side of this all of these suspected chemicals keep being shown to be false leads. That is very significant for one reason. It shows thwere is an effort to find these weapons and to report on their findings honetly.
Those who would believe the evidnece would be planted must see that this has not happened and those searching are prepared to be upfront and admit 1) they haven’t found anything yet and 2) let us know when a report is mistaken or outright wrong!
Oh by the way Missiles have a longer range and guidence devices, rockets are like artillery you fire it straight at your target (Well actually in an arc) in a somewhat short range. Once fired all that guides it is wind, fuel weight and initial trajectory.
I’m unsure about that whole testicle thingy. But not liking Bush and stating that this war is illegal both very much holds independent of whether WoMDs will be found or not.