Quick Question:
We had some delicious barbecue over the weekend. So, does licking/sucking sauce off your fingers count as “touching your face”?
If it’s good enough for chimps (Homo pan) it’s good enough for me, and it’s one way they say hi. Except bonobos, which fuck.
Utterly coincidentally, if you believe in coincidences, this song came up on the rotation when I opened this thread:
I don’t want to go where Mary Ann 's shaky hand has been.
If you’re concerned with germ transfer on the front of the fingers, why not the back of the fingers? I’m probably more likely to rub my eye or my nose with the back of my hand than the front of it. No, fist bumps are worse than a handshake; much of the same downside + you get to look like a ‘bro’. :rolleyes:
…& the ‘exploding fist bump’? Really awesome when you’re three years old but by age four it’s stupid!
I think it’s silly to insist everyone abandon a centuries-old tradition because germs are icky :rolleyes: Especially when, y’know, so many diseases in no way require actually touching to spread (cough coronavirus cough).
If an individual is sick, immunocompromised or otherwise just does not like hand-shaking, then they don’t have to do it. Simple as that.
You shut your mouth, boy - I taught my old manager to embrace the sacred tradition, and by god he saw the light.
OK, sure. A brief, less than a second bump, barely in contact is worse than full contact hand shake.
Did he continue to do it after you two parted ways or did he do it only to humor you?
Unless you’re doing the politician place the left hand over the shaking hands or the other person’s forearm a handshake is pretty quick.
If you want to go to the Japanese tradition of slightly bowing (no contact) or rubbing elbows as you can’t then rub you’re face with that body part no issues but germs can transfer when you’re briefly touching hands, front or back.
That sounds better yet. Or just stay verbal & a head nod maybe.
I wouldn’t mind it. But the “elbow bump” as a replacement seems excessively awkward so I vote no on that one.
Sure, we could eliminate handshakes. But what species are you proposing we replace humans with? Physical contact is a fundamental part of human socializing, and socializing is a fundamental part of being human.
I was going to suggest the elbow bump as well. I think it works fine, even if you just play it off as a short term ‘joke’ (that’s really not). I know a few bartenders that, as you go to shake their hand will initially reach towards you, out of habit and then say ‘Coronoavirus’ as they pull their hand back and point their elbow at you. They did the exact same thing during H1N1. Play it off as a joke, but in the end, they’re still not touching everyone’s hands all day.
It’s awkward, but for people who feel a real need to shake hands, be it out of habit or just ‘what they do’ during certain types of interactions, this give them/you a way to make some type of physical contact but not touching their hands.
The other option is almost equally awkward, but gets the same point across in a less ‘jokey’ way. That is, when someone goes to shake your hand, pull your hands back/put them up and say ‘nope, can’t shake hands right now, don’t want to get sick’, or something along those lines.
Carry Purell, use it often. Wash your hands regularly and don’t touch your face.
I went to one of those How to succeed in business classes during college and they spent forever talking about the good firm handshake shit.
I’ve never really liked and if people want to judge you on it, fuck them. And I’d be awful in sales.
The Japanese seem to manage.
QFT.
Not as long as you have someone else do the licking/sucking.
Yeah. A few years back on a different forum there was a handshake discussion, and a poster opined that you could tell So Much about a person from their handshake. Yeah, well no. Sometimes you can tell if the person gives a damn about having a good firm handshake, but you certainly can’t tell whether or not the car they’re selling is a lemon. Or whether or not they’ll lie about it being a lemon.
I responded to the poster saying that we really needed to institute the Business Kiss. You can tell so much more about the person from a 5-second kiss than a 3-stroke handshake. There are hints of need, of consideration, of assertiveness, dependability, flightiness. Even deep affection.
As for real world handshaking, I fist bump anytime I can get away with it. My knuckles don’t touch doorknobs or sink handles. I almost never touch the back of my fingers to my eyes, nose or mouth.
I had hoped Quadgop would pop in here, but until then, gladly!
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While no, kids shouldn’t be kept in a bubble, hygiene is DEFINITELY important. Common sense shows that WASHING YOUR HANDS is the key.
And there’s a difference as to WHAT you’re exposed to. Kids making mud pies, or rolling down hills? Yeah, sure, we all did that. We’re washable.
Exposure to someone with corona virus, or SARS? Falling for the anti-vaccine bullshit? Avoiding washing your hands because, “your immune system needs the exercise”? That’s an entirely different kettle of fish.
Here in Hawai’i, people hug and kiss hello and goodbye all the time. So far, this doesn’t seem to be changing, though I MC’d an event on Saturday that the mayor, an old guy with health issues, bailed on at the last minute - while I am personally pretty sanguine so far, I don’t blame him. I did all the hugging and lei-bestowing required of me, as did everyone else pretty much, but I can’t be the only person whose mind was crossed by the thought that maybe this wasn’t such a good idea.
As a Hawai’i resident, how do you feel about all the hugging?
I’ve trained myself to manage it without flinching, but as someone who was raised to be a frosty New Englander, it’s not easy.
I’m a hermit so I don’t really interact with people. The only people, other than my parents that I see are church people and I’ve trained all of them to not touch me, pretty much. I do think hugs are way worse than handshaking though. It’s full body and so invasive. The only people I put up with hugging is close family. I will lean way back if anyone tries that shit, which may have hurt a few people’s feelings at first, but we’ve been here for 4 years so they’re used to me by now and just wave.
Speak for yourself - my cat is six years old, and he loves it.