Just a quick question, as I have not been following this story that closely lately. Yesterday on FOX, I saw the usual list of total cases and deaths in the US, but also a piece of data that I don’t recall seeing anywhere else: total number of recoveries from the virus. Has anyone seen this on CNN or MSNBC or the like?
Thanks.
How is “recovery” being defined?
Is it no aftereffects, or is it “didn’t die…yet”?
Many of the COVID trackers like John Hopkins or the Worldmeter track recoveries as well. It’s as well-vetted as these things can be.
It was defined by the word “Recoveries”.
Then it was not defined at all.
Yes, I noted early in the pandemic that recovery numbers were getting included.
And recovery means what you think it would afaik.They no longer have an active infection and aren’tdead.
Thanks for the reply. Can I assume since you didn’t answer my question, that you have not seen this stat on CNN or MSNBC?
Gov Cuomo of NY held televised daily briefings for almost 4 months, and just stopped them 10 days ago. Among the data he presented were graphs and charts tallying recoveries. CNN televised each one of his briefings, so for that small pinpoint of data they did let the public know the daily number of recoveries in NYS, and whether it trended up or down daily, weekly, and monthly.
ETA: not sure if MSNBC televised these briefings as well.
Also, for about the last 2 months Cuomo listed the recovery stats daily per region as well as a total for the state
In standard epidemiological parlance, “recovered” includes “died from the disease we’re tracking.”
In the argot, “recovered” means precisely “is no longer infectious”; nothing more and nothing less. Specifically it says nothing whatsoever about how much harm befell the no-longer-infectious person. 100% normal = “recovered”. Crippled for life = “recovered”. In a persistent coma = “recovered”. Dead = “recovered”.
So much for the naive idea the term means something clear and obvious to the layman.
That’s how this lay man interpreted it. I am well aware that someone who recovers from a gunshot wound may still have a limp.
A man who recovers from a gunshot wound may also have lost an eye, a leg, an arm, a kidney, maybe even a bit of brain.
You’re saying “Recovered” includes dead people? Cite please: I’ve been googling for confirmation that that’s what it means, unsuccessfully.
Etc.
Thanks.
I’ll add that “Recovered” seems to have always been a well-intentioned but sadly a bullshit statistic, since it doesn’t seem to be updated properly or at all. Deaths seem like a reliable metric, “New Cases” less so because it fluctuates so crazily.
Snowboarder Bo has been including recoveries in his Breaking News posts for as long as I’ve been reading them. Where does he get his data?
My recollection is Bo samples Worldometer at a specific time every day, 9pm-ish
I’m not an epidemiologist but I’ve never heard of “death” being part of “recovery”. Do you have a cite for this? I suspect someone is conflating “recovered” with “resolved” or “closed” cases. A case that is no longer active will have ended in either death, recovery or disability. I haven’t seen anywhere where disabilities are being reported but we may see this in future research. Recovered cases are probably determined by signs, symptoms and test results (although covid test results have been tricky).
Conflating “recovered” with “resolved” is a fairly common mistake. Keep asking questions.
You guys are being nice. Thinking “dead” is included in “recovered” is kinda loony tunes.