Crappy Movie Fans UNITE!!!!

I love love LOVE really crappy movies. I admit there are some movies out there that are just too bad to watch (Alien Terminators for example), but there are some classics (Plan Nine From Outer Space) and not so classic (Dude, Where’s my Car?) movies that are just so terrible, that they are absolutely WONDERFUL (whether they mean to be or not).

I started to list some of mine, but I’ve seen so many, I’m just going to settle with Dirty Work as my favorite for now. Whenever I need a shitty movie, it’s always there for me.

So, what are some of your favorite crappy movies?

I used to be a bad movie fan, but last week I watched Manos: Hands of Fate from the MST3K collection, and frankly I’m still a bit scarred from that.

Troll 2, a movie so horrible it ruined all the stars’ careers. The director was fresh from making Cave Dwellers, aka Puke in Movie Form. Any movie from MST3K is gold for me! (one man’s treasure…)
Other bad movies i like:

Prisoner Maria (from Japan!)
All Godzilla Movies (from Japan!)
All Gamera Movies (from Japan!)
APE (from Korea!)
Shaolin Dolemite (Ninja Ho!)
Pinnochio’s Revenge
Jack Frost (the Killer Snowman one, not the Micheal Keaton or Russian ones)
Fantasy Mission Force (with Jackie Chan!)

Some terrible awful movies I like:

Forbidden Zone - by Richard Elfman… it has Herve Villachez and the acting is TERRIBLE, the sets are made of mostly cardboard… oh god it’s awful

Shrunken Heads - another Richard Elfman classic about kids killed by a gang whose heads are resurrected and shrunken by a Voodoo master newspaper salesman to get revenge… even a pseudo sex scene between a head and a girl.

Ruebin and Ed - a lovely little odd film about a guy trying to bury his pet cat… stars Crispin Glover and Howard Hessman

The Violent Years - 50’s era film about a gang of girls who steal for a female “boss” rape young men, and eventually get caught

Reefer Madness - we have all seen this one

Sex Madness - made by the same people as reefer madness… a 50’s film that’s a cautionary tale of sex addiction and it’s side effects

Caligula - just all around bad and vile

Men Behind the sun - a vile disgusting film about the torture/medical experiment camps the japanese ran in Mongolia at the start of world war 2

Cannibal Holocaust - the film that predates Blair Witch by about 20 years, depicting a pseudo documentary about people who disappeared in the jungles of South America… the footage is found only to see the torture of the indigeous people and their rise up and the film crew’s violent deaths at the hands of the cannibal tribes. In many scenes disturbingly realistic.

Hackers - it’s so bad but i can’t help but love the cheesiness.

I agree with Elvis about “Plan 9” and “Dude”, absolute trash that you have to love.

I don’t get his problem with the Alien or T films, though.

I do however have one for the book that I’m shocked nobody has mentioned - “Killer Clowns From Outer Space”

The title says it all. Really.

I might get hit for this one, but “Spice World”. I’ve had this video for years and I’ve never once watched it sober. Absolutely hysterical.

And how about “Freeway”?

As I’ve said numerous times on the SDMB, I have a Bad Film Festival every year. I’ve been doing it since LONG before MST3K came out. The challenge is to come up with entertainingly bad movies – ones you can easily make fun of with friends.

My Best of— list:

It Came from Hollywood – the Best of the Worst, with commentary by SCTV and SNL members. A good intoduction to this kind of thing

Zacherly’s Horrible Horror ** – another compilation with amazing stuff, like outtakes from Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein and ** Killers from Space. Hard to find, though. Zacherly (John Zacherle) was one of the pioneers of what would become the MST3K style.

Plan Nine from Outer Space – the classic

Robot Monster – the other classic. Hard to believe that Elmer Bernstein (The Magnificent Seven, among others) did the score for this.

The Giant Claw – arguably the worst 1950s monster film from a major studio. Take one look at the monster and you’ll see why.

** The Forbidden Zone** – mentioned above (although Danny Elfman did not direct. He did the music, and appears on-camera, too). I started showing this one and my wife begged me to turn it off during the opening credits. Our guests asked for me to keep it going, but five minutes later they asked me to kill it, too. It is almost impossible to describe this movie. You have to see it. I’m the only person I know who’s seen it all the way through.

The Crawling Eye Forrest Tucker in a British sf film from the 1950s. For some reason, a lot of these started off as TV serials (this one was originally The Trollenberg Terror), and a lot of them star Forrest Tucker, in his pre-F-Troop days. They also tend to involve aliens “possessing” people. I have a deep suspicion that the British hate aliens not so much because they’re slimy, people-eating, possessive monsters, but because they’re foreigners.

Star Crystal – awful Alien wannabee with the worst ET you’ve seen in a long time. But the real reason to see this film is the way the monster is defeated. For the first and only time I can recall, the beastie is stopped by being converted to Christianity. Must be seen to be believed.

Not of this Earth – there have been three versions of this, all made by Roger Corman. The first isn’t too bad, but the second (from the 1980s and starring Traci Lords (!!)) is wonderfully bad. I know that Corman must have set out to make this a wretched, campy version, but he succeeded too well.

This year I was thinking about a Bruce Kimmel film festival – The First Nudie Musical and Starship/The Creature that Wasn’t Nice/The Naked Space. Kimmel wrote, directed, and starred in these works. He also wrote the music, then convinced Cindy Williams (yep, Shirley from Laverne and Shirley) to star in both. Ron Howard has a cameo in the first, and Patrick MacNee and Leslie Neilsen star in the second. Kimmel must have a hell of a blackmail collection.

But I decided to go with a George Pal festival, perhaps because of the new Time Machine. I loved George Pal’s films when I was growing up, and many still have much to recommend them. But if you haven’t seen Doc Savage, Man of Bronze, then you are missing a treat. Try to watch this without groaning or cracking up. There’s even a website devoted to its “MSTification” that’s worth downloading while you watch this. I also plan to show Atlantis, the Lost Continent. Awesome spectacle, wooden dialogue, and just plain silliness. Look for all the costumes and props taken from Forbidden Planet.

Aw yeah, I loves me some bad movies. Probably the most prominent bad movie that I absolutely love is Cutthroat Island. Damn, that movie’s a hoot.

For the record, the worst movie I’ve ever seen, in terms of pure incompetence all-around, is Ed Wood’s Glen Or Glenda?. You gotta love a movie with a scene of Bela Lugosi chanting “Pull the string!!” over and over in that thick accent of his while buffalo stampede across the screen. I would say that Freddy Got Fingered was the worst I’d ever seen, but I refuse to give that coveted title to a film that didn’t even try to be good.

PLAN 9 For allowing us into the demented mind of Ed Wood Jr.

Bride of the Monster: For the Bela Lugosi Speech “Home… I have no Home…”

Battlefield Earth… Cause they speant so much money and brought in diverse talent and failed so utterly

Children Shouldn’t play with Dead things: Let’s face it Zombies eating Hippies is just Groovy

Any Godzilla movie but especially Vrs King Kong.

Robot Monster… Crappiest Monster of all time… Hu Man I am Ro Man!

THE AMAZING COLOSSAL MAN… he’s big irradiated seethru and oh yes Bald as a ping pong ball.

WAR OF TEH COLOSSAL BEAST: See above but add the bad skin condition, madness and growling to old Colloses ever growing social problems

Many of my favorite crappy movies date from the 80s, when cable was a brand new thing in our house and I managed to gorge on whatever was out there.
Off the hit list are (and these are movies I’ll still watch when they’re on):
Summer School: Mark Harmon (mmmm) did it for me back then, especially with those rollerskates on.
Once Bitten: Jim Carrey before he started taking himself so seriously, with a delicious Lauren Hutton as the vamp who needs virgins to keep young and beautiful.
Back to School: Which is not really a crappy movie, IMO, but the presence of Rodney Dangerfield in any film may warrant such status. I love everything about it.
Men At Work: Emilio Estevez directs (kind of)! Charlie Sheen made a great garbage man.
Mysterious Island: Again, not so much crappy except for the clumsy (by our standards) FX of the giant land animals. I like giant animals.
The quadruple movie marathon of:
Labryinth, Legend, The Dark Crystal, and Krull. Lots of fantasy/sf as a kid.
I’m all crapped out now.
I’m all crapped out now.

Sweet! I love bad movies!!

I didn’t know there were three versions of “Not of this Earth” Cripes and here I am having only seen the Traci Lords version.

I figured I’d throw in the mother of all bad movies, you can not honestly say you appreciate bad movies unless you have seen this one:

Starring Lou Ferrigno, written by Edgar Allen Poe (yeah, BULLSHIT)

The 7th voyage of Sinbad

Wow, I’m perfectly at home in this thread. I actually own the collector’s edition DVD of “Slave Girls From Beyond Infinity.” :slight_smile:

Meatros, I am afraid you are mistaken. The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad doesn’t star Lou Ferrigno – it came out in 1959, when he was a tyke. It stars Kerwin Matthews. It doesn’t claim to be by Edgar Allen Poe (and I can’t imagine which work by Poe it could be – the 10002 tale of Scheherazade is the closest, and it’s a LONG way off.)

On top of which, 7VS isn’t a bad movie. It’s the quintessential Harryhausen flick, with plot and characters as well as good F/X.

They didn’t need any help from the movie to do that. Unless their characters were actually aliens trying to approximate what they think a human would do. Nobody in that movie does anything that makes a lick of sense. Sometimes I actually try and figure out what they think they were doing, but it just ends up fusing my brain cells. I laugh it away, but it’s more of a defense against the yawning abyss of insanity the movie opens up before me. One wrong step and I could go tumbling down. Good thing I always keep a double-decker bologna sandwich with me.

Anybody who likes bad movies should check out badmovies.org. It’s also got a message board you can use.

…for crappy movies that I loved:
PLAN 9 : obvious
-“LOVE STORY”-the death scene was just so schmalzy!-I felt like laughing
-“ABBOT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN”-idioptic, even for 1956!
-“THE GREEN SLIME”
-and ,best of all-eorge Romero’s “NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD”-the classic scene was the deputy looking over the burned out truck (where the young couple died); exclaiming …“somebody musta hadda a barbeque here!”:wally

Probably the most camp (in that “it’s so bad it’s fun to watch” sense rather than being really unwatchable) is Ratfink a Booboo [sic], by none other than the great(?) Ray Dennis Steckler, who also gave us the camp classic The Incredible Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies.

For the first forty minutes or so, the film centers around a young woman who seems to be stalked by someone, and is subsequently kidnapped. It’s gritty, grainy (due to the cheap film stock) but oddly gripping. Her two male friends seem to be genuinely concerned and made a good effort to find her, when suddenly…

…the whole picture takes a sharp left into the Land of Absurdity, when the two guys put on costumes and become…Ratfink and Booboo! Within the space of two minutes, we’ve gone from low-budget thriller to cheap Batman knockoff!

However, the most memorable exchange, that never fails to bust my gut, is as follows:

Ratfink: Now remember, Booboo, there’s only one thing we’re vulnerable to.

Booboo: What’s that, Ratfink?

Ratfink: Bullets!

:smiley:

I didn’t say I have anything against the Alien or Terminator movies (the Alien films are some of my favorite, save “Resurrection”) I said Alien Terminators, it’s a horrible sci-fi movie about this underground science facility where the “Head scientist” constantly snorts cocaine and ends up creating this bizzare “alien” creature in a petri dish that eats the rats, keeps growing and kills a bunch of people until they destroy the facility. Just really shitty.

Also, there’s The Stuff about this after dinner desert that’s really being mined from the center of the earth and takes over people who eat enough of it and turns them into mindless slaves. WONDERFUL!!!

And C.H.U.D.

And thanks for saying Forbined Zone, I’m so relieved my friends and I aren’t the only ones to see it.

Forgot Leprachaun in Space!!! Coolest bad horror film of all time, from Debbie Dunning, to Aliens rip off, to guy who is just a head and an arm on wheels, to a guy with a clear cyborg head, to space princess breasts, this movie had it all!

EER, my bad. :slight_smile: Sorry, dude. Please continue without any more foolish interruptions from the likes of I.

I think Meatros meant Sinbad Of The Seven Seas from 1989. It’s quite notorious in bad movie circles.

My favorite is Monster Island from the early 80s. The big name stars who lure you into watching it disappear for most of the film, the monsters are painfully fake, the plot and characters are silly, the music is annoyingly cheerful. But I can’t stop watching when it comes on.

A close second is Terror Beneath The Sea. It’s a Japanese sci-fi flick from the 1960s, hokey as hell but a real hoot. Power mad scientists with an underwater base trying to take over the world and turning their captives into “subhuman cyborgs”. But they rally look like rip-offs of the Creature From The Black Lagoon costume. Worth seeking out.

BTW, I love Killer Klowns From Outer Space. The filmmakers tongues are firmly planted in their cheeks on that one. It’s completely goofy without being insulting to the audience.

Mmmm…My criteria for a truly bad movie is, “Does the plot make sense?..Is it funny when it’s supposed to be funny, and serious/poignant/tense when it’s supposed to be those things?..Is the dialogue anything that people would say in real life?..Are the actors acting, consistently with the characters, or just reading the lines/emoting in a way that’s not appropriate for the dialogue?” If the answers to all those questions are “no”, then it is a bad movie.

By those standards, Dude, Where’s My Car? is not a bad movie. It’s dumb, frivolous and exploitative, but not bad. For one thing, the action is plotted out well: it comes full circle, and all the loose ends are tied up. There are funny lines/scenes; they’re predictable, but funny partly because they’re predictable (gee, I wonder what’s going to happen when that kid’s swinging the bat so close to the man’s jewels?). And all the performances were consistent. Ashton Kutcher may not be capable of playing anything other than a cheerful dolt, but he does it exceedingly well. And the title is perfect: the tone and the premise are right there. So D,WMC? is a good dumb movie.

Now on to some bad movies.

The Allnighter. It failed as a comedy, because I didn’t laugh once. It failed as a romantic comedy, because not enough time was devoted to the male and female leads and their “relationship”. It failed as a “party” movie, because there were too few characters, and the party elements weren’t crucial to the plot. And overall, I just don’t like those “and then” movies, where the plot is completely linear and everything keeps getting more and more screwed up, and gee, I wonder if they’ll resolve it by the end credits?

Satisfaction. OMG. Movieline (hi, Eve!) once highlit it in their “Bad Movies We Love” column. I had to know in what context the speech “See, we can either make the kind of noise that’s going to wake this world from its stagnant slumber, or we can bloat ourselves like those who have gone before us on the synthetic pap sucked from the techno tit of those who will lead us to the tyrannical bullshit our apathetic asses sometimes deserve.” (No, I didn’t have that memorized; I had to get out the BMWL book to transcribe it.) Anyway. The video-store owner gave me such a fisheye (she knew my tastes far exceeded this movie!) that I had to salvage my pride by bringing the review back in to show her. And it was bad. Bad, bad, bad. As I’ve shown, the dialogue was excruciating. It was Julia Robert’s first film, so I don’t hold it against her. And she did try, with what they gave her. I can forgive Liam Neeson, because he also did try, plus he hadn’t made his name yet and everyone has to eat. The one redeeming factor is Deborah Harry. She has one scene, and in it, manages to knock Justine Bateman right off the set (figuratively, but I wouldn’t mind if she’d done it literally).

Some of you may be aware that I am a great admirer of David Patrick Kelly. I weep for him, that Cheap Shots is still his only lead role. A friend viewed it with me and summed it up thusly: “This is a movie that didn’t know what it was supposed to be.” It’s not quite a comedy, not quite suspense, not quite drama. It keeps reaching plot points that might send it in the direction of something interesting, but instead it wobbles for a moment, then limps on. David plays this guy who is supposed to be incredibly naive, and to his credit, manages to humanize him, but I just cringed when he said stuff like, “You’re right; I’m stumped” (Who the hell ever says “stumped”?) in a situation where anyone with half a brain would have known what was going on. I don’t mean his performance was bad, just this character was so dumb that IRL, he would have been run over by a truck long before the story began. The other lead also does well in his role, but the movie itself is about as compelling as an instructional video on cleaning heating ducts. The only good thing about it is, David doesn’t get killed, as he usually does.