We need closure. We need a panel 22 and of course the obligatory form.
How about you doing Panel 22 kingpengvin? Your “fundie defense mechanism” was good, you ought to be able to give it the ol’ Chick flavor!
Panel 22
There are flames all around and bodies on fire screaming in agnoy. No it’s not Hell its the Dopefest. Bob is Standing in the forground while flaming bodies are running around. Bob has bloodshot eyes and some drool dribbling down his chin.
BOB: Yes you have all got a taste of hell but when you get there it will be far worse! HAW HAW HAW! Come taste some **REAL HEAT!**BURN YOU HEATHEN SCUM BURN AND DIE IN YOUR SINS!!! I’ll be seeing you in the Burn ward real soon!!
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!
** Final Panel**
Bob says there is only one way to survive eternal damnation. “my way or the Fry way”
Do you want Bob to come in and fry your Heathen Ass? If not answer the following:
Will you give up the evil that is the SDMB and accept Chick’s version of Christianity as the only way? yes
As there is no other way we have given no other option. You’ve read this and if you don’t accept it you are DOOMED! No escape we warned you and now when you meet God he won’t let you off the hook. Accept or Burn.
Order more tracts today or else god will be really pissed.
Any new Ideas?
Sorry for the unintentinal irony but it left me cold. Bob (and by extention Jac) is a jackass and fucked up and misguided but he isn’t Fred Phelps. I know it sounds like I’m defending Jack or drawing too fine a distinction but Jack says “you’ll burn in hell, that’s too bad” while Fred takes hateful glee in hellfire.
Let me think about it a while. I still want to try getting Jack to make an anti-Sci-Fi tract.
I have to disagree. Jack goes out of his way to show the people suffering. Jack’s world is a paranoid hateful place, that is what I dislike. There is a certain happiness he gets when the “sinners” go to Hell.
Rabi Waxman or Reverend Wonderful are tracts that revolt me in their sadistic enjoyment of watching “Good” people get theirs. These are not traditionally evil people but seem to represent those who Chick hates because they say things against him or parts of his belief. He is in the “either fer us or agin us” mentality.
I can accept fundamentalists as long as they follow a live and let live philosophy.
When they start telling folks they are going to fry they may say they are merely warning them but I have seen too many with that smug glint in their eye. It is a look that seems to say “You’ll get yours for not doing as I do because I’m right!” It reminds me of children who vow to show everyone in the end. It is spiteful.
I know people with a genuine concern for my imortal soul and go about trying to save me in a much less mean spirited way and never once say that I am going to Hell for my sins.
You say raving, hateful, hardcore, fundamentalist lunantic I say po-tah-to. It’s all good.
Okay you two, kiss and make up! You have already? That’s nice!
kingpengvin, while that wasn’t a classic Chick ending it was sure interesting. It’s probably what some people would actually think about doing, but not carry it out. After all, some people, within their twisted world, think it’s ok to shoot an abortion doctor, but not to have an abortion (which is also killing). So at what age does it become ok to kill someone, in their worldview?
At one point it was discussed about whether or not to make a final, third, tract. The idea of doing an over-the-top one was mentioned, but I think kingpengvin took care of that. Let’s do a final one perfectly straight, and base it on one of Chick’s classics. Any ideas? I’d mentioned before the place of women in the home/ or career oriented.
I’m on board for another tract. No need to rush though, let’s bounce some ideas around. You might have something if you threw out some anachronistic ideas about gender roles like Bob telling a woman she can’t speak in church.
ok maybe I went a tad over the top…
Place for the woman sounds interesting… What say everyone else… Where is Diogenes
Place for the woman sounds good to me.
go ahead someone start I’ll do panel 4
Why doesn’t Baker get us started since it was her idea.
Okay, but I want to wait until I get home. And before then I have a couple of questions. Has Chick ever actually done a tract like this? Or something similar? And, while I envision this one being done in straight fashion(more like the first one) do we want to add just a few little Doper touches(again as in the first one) I’m going to start it straight, and see where we end up. Se you in about an hour.
I can’t remember Jack ever doing anything along those lines overtly.
<flash of inspiration>
Celebrity death match: Jack Chick vs. Fred Phelps
Granted a different medium. Clamation vs. tracts but we could adapt it. It makes me tingly!
Just one more question(please don’t hit me), and it doesn’t have to be answered for a while yet. In Chick’s theology, can a person be saved at the last minute? I mean, if you’re dying but not dead, and decide to accept God, will you be saved? In my flavor of Christianity such a person would make it, but I don’t know for sure about Chick. What I was thinking about was the possibility of not having a damnation in this one, but a corny death bed conversion by one of the main characters. But, as has been said before, we will just have to see where we end up.
And if just a leetle touch of sarcasm comes from any character I happen to give voice to, remember this, I was raised in a church in which women not only can’t be ordained or even read the Scripture lessons during services, they are not, to this day, voting members of their congregations. My mom was baptized, confirmed, married, and will some day be buried from her home congregation, and she can’t even vote on church matters. Ugh.
ROLE MODELS
Panel 1
The background is a generic looking college campus, trees, sidewalks, class buildings, etc. In the background there appears to be a large gathering, with signs like ERA YES! and WE DEMAND TOTAL EQUALITY. In the foreground two young women are walking, books in arms. One is in pants, one in a skirt. As they pass by the gathering their conversation begins.
Julia Darn! I forgot about the equal rights rally today, and I was going to attend too. Ms. Le Fay, the speaker, is really super!
Susan (she’s the one in the skirt) Why do you need a law to be equal? We are all equal before God, and that’s all that really matters.
Julia But Susan! Don’t you want the same chance as men to have a good job and make money?
Susan I don’t have to worry about my future!
A large question mark appears over Julia’s head
Deathbed conversions are common in Chick’s world. Soul Story has one that is very touching… in a blaxplotation sort of way.
I like the direction this is going but I haven’t seen much evidence for Jack’s views one way or the other on women’s role in the church. Just how conservative he is remains a matter of speculation.
[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by kingpengvin *
**Panel 22
There are flames all around and bodies on fire screaming in agnoy. No it’s not Hell its the Dopefest. Bob is Standing in the forground while flaming bodies are running around. Bob has bloodshot eyes and some drool dribbling down his chin.
BOB: Yes you have all got a taste of hell but when you get there it will be far worse! HAW HAW HAW! Come taste some **REAL HEAT!**BURN YOU HEATHEN SCUM BURN AND DIE IN YOUR SINS!!! I’ll be seeing you in the Burn ward real soon!!
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!
** Final Panel**
Bob says there is only one way to survive eternal damnation. “my way or the Fry way”
Do you want Bob to come in and fry your Heathen Ass? If not answer the following:
Will you give up the evil that is the SDMB and accept Chick’s version of Christianity as the only way? yes
As there is no other way we have given no other option. You’ve read this and if you don’t accept it you are DOOMED! No escape we warned you and now when you meet God he won’t let you off the hook. Accept or Burn.
Order more tracts today or else god will be really pissed. **[/QUOTE
You FOOL! Ozzy Ct’ozbo’thu and the moonknights can kick god’s metroid ass into the hell where you go to because you drove a red car on a tuesday!
HAWHAWHAW!
Accept that ChickGod is a divisive bigot, fundie FOOLS! HAHAHAHA!
Panel 2
Julia looks at Susan all funny like
Susan
Nownownow, julia, don’t look at me like that. I KNOW I’m going to heaven.I was BLWEEEEEEEEPed By god himself and gave birth to superman and every superhero!
Julia looks at Susan all funnier, for a much different reason.
(would this be deleted?)
Hey, bong? Are you stoned? 'Cuz you’re screwing up the story line here, bud.