Well no, we can’t just shoot black children because we feel threatened, which is why it’s such a big deal that cops can do it in exchange for a paid unscheduled vacation. SImilarly, smacking Rando with a can just because it’s easier than dealing with the baggage that makes you afraid of him is also bad mojo. And lastly, memes, however hypothetical, which celebrate violence against “creepY” guys (aka Rando who looks funny or acts sorta reminiscent of a bad boyfriend from 20 years ago) need to be crushed. People are fucking stupid. They eat Tide pods and take train track selfies because the internet says to.
Absolutely. Let’s not forget what the real danger here is, after all. It’s not that so many men routinely feel entitled to follow strange women around a store staring at them and often even engaging in criminal behavior such as sexual indecency or outright assaulting them, but rather that some woman somewhere might get the mistaken idea that she’d be justified in using violence against a strange guy creeping on her who has technically not done anything illegal.
Now there’s something worth starting a condemnatory thread about.
Yeah, there’s always going to be that special one who believes they need to go shoot up the pizza place where children are being held as sex slaves.
You’re misinterpreting me - but I think you knew that.
Aren’t you an adult? I ask because it’s not clear to me why anyone older than 10 would treat a meme like a PSA.
Those stories posted by Kimstu make me shudder.
There’s a million of them:
It’s all in whose head? You’re the one saying the damn thing is hypothetical. Are you suggesting no creepy guy ever engages in criminal behavior at a Walmart?
Are you saying anything at all about any real world scenario, as far as you’re aware?
One of the best bits of advice I ever got from a cop: If some messes with you and you get angry, you’ll have the rest of your life to be scared.
If my creep-o-meter goes off, I’m going to look you straight in the eye and raise my left (bad) hand in a fist, and scream “Get the hell away from me.” If you persist, my right (good) hand is going into your nose or stomach. Hard as I can do it.
And all I have to tell the cops and/or judge is “I thought my right hand was being threatened.” It’s my stay out of jail card.
#PeopleOfWalMart
Can’t we be against unjustified violence of all sorts?
I sure hope being followed in a store isn’t the standard here. Grocery stores are designed for all customers to take roughly the same path, which means that customers who show up at the same time will be “following” each other throughout their whole shopping trip, with no ill intent.
By all means, if someone is sniffing your hair and masturbating to your children, feel free to get violent. But the ugly, older guy you saw shopping nearby multiple times during your shopping trip is probably just shopping.
And to tie it all together with the atrocities committed by police across the country: Feeling threatened isn’t enough. You have to actually be threatened to justify committing violence. And yes, it’s an abomination that police in this country aren’t held to the same standard as the rest of us, but the standard remains. We should raise the standard for police, not lower it for everyone else.
“Pardon me sir, I hate to sound pushy or demanding, and I certainly pride myself on my open-mindedness and tolerance, (in fact one of my favorite shows is Modern Family) but if you don’t mind, your, umm, ‘Enthusiasm’ is making me and my child a little bit uncomfortable…”
I often wonder if men like the two fine Drs in this thread have wives, daughters, nieces or actually know any women at all who have come home and told them of the kinds of incidents described in this thread and still can’t stretch their empathy and understanding far enough to appreciate why some women would post hyperbolic rants at the very real risk of sending these two fine and obviously sensitive souls running to their safe spaces.
Drs. Cube and Deth…word of advice… maybe delete your facebook accounts if you’re going to be triggered by this kind of stuff.
I’d go with screaming “Get the hell away from us, you creep or I’m calling 911.” Very loudly.
Are y’all reading the stories Kimstu is posting?
Look, I’ll be the first to condemn any woman who starts in on the green bean throwing afterunfairly maligning a guy as a creep at Walmart. But until that happens, I don’t have any problems with telling woman to defend herself if a guy does shit like pinch her ass in the check out line after doggedly pursuing her in the store. FFS, the last thing a woman in this situation needs is to second guess the fear she’s feeling when she’s actually in danger.
Until there’s a rash (or even just a few examples) of women assaulting men who weren’t doing anything, it doesn’t seem reasonable to worry about this even close to as much as the worry about creepy men following women in stores and behaving lewdly, which quite clearly does happen disturbingly often.
True, and if you think about it for a moment, you’ll realize that that means that millions of women every day are being innocently “followed” through stores by millions of men whom they aren’t complaining about on the internet.
I mean, if women were constantly bitching that half the guys in the store are following them around every time they set foot in the place, you’d have a point. But that’s not what’s happening, because women generally don’t assume that men are being “creepy” just by virtue of walking through a store.
And honorable mention to Inigo Montoya’s condescending sneers about the poor little dears simply not wanting to “deal with the baggage that makes [them] afraid” of random men who are just innocently acting “sorta reminiscent of a bad boyfriend from 20 years ago”.
Because the problem, of course, isn’t that vast numbers of women are actually getting creeped on by strangers whose behavior often veers into the deliberately intimidating and outright criminal: no, it’s that the silly wimminz are so apt to be frightened of harmless men for no valid reason at all, probably due to the natural defects of their ladybrains.
In a world where women are indeed treated like prey, fear is a gift.
Asking a woman to override her fear instinct and give that creepy guy a chance is beyond ridiculous. Women don’t confront men they can easily escape from, it’s too often life threatening.
That’s all very nice. But it’s like comparing the man who shots two armed black assailants breaking into his house, as opposed to the man who killed a innocent black youth who was “acting suspicious”.
NOTHING at all, *nothing whatsoever *in the meme indicated anything other thna “being creepy”. So you can bring in these horror stories- but they have nothing whatsoever to do with the advice given to assault a guy for merely being creepy.
And I will tell you ladies- that your “creepy radar” is pretty damn worthless. I had to read thru a bunch of fBI cases studies about pedophiles (horrible, nauseating stuff), and in every single case the Mom was quoted as saying that the kiddie rapist “seemed like such a nice man” , never, ever “well, I thought he was creepy from the moment I saw him”. Pedophiles dont act or* look* creepy, they* are *creepy.
Too many girls have been dated raped by a “cute guy” who slipped them a date rape drug.
So, creepy radar or *momma bear radar *is pretty much useless.
Oh, well, if you’ve read FBI case studies about pedophiles, what does anyone’s expertise about violence against women, science about fear, or the experience of actually being a woman have to contribute?
You should have said so!