I understand RedFury thought it was stupid and you obviously agree, but that’s not some kind of objective determination. And no, it does not give you the freedom to insult everybody else.
I for one never knew that the men could beat the women in football until RedFury graciously pointed it out. I’m sure I speak for the vast majority of posters here when I say that.
That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
What’s hilarious is your assumption that because someone enjoys women’s soccer, it must necessarily mean that person doesn’t watch men’s soccer or understand anything about it. If you put in the least effort, you’d find you were entirely wrong in your assumption about my understanding of the sport.
I stand by my post. I never said that the women would be athletically competitive with men in a one-to-one scenario. You’re the one who came in with this:
Yep, that’s thread-shitting. Incidentally, you weren’t even quoting anyone. I did say Carli Lloyd’s second goal was “sensational,” which it was. I also said the women are “good footballers,” which they are.
You didn’t even watch the game. The top women’s teams are good. Are they as good as Barcelona FC, or the hated enemies of football, Real Madrid, or any of the top teams in the major leagues in Europe or the best international men’s sides? Well, no. So what? They’re still good, and the match was exciting football, which you’d know if you had actually watched the match and didn’t feel the need to protect your sainted manhood with “herp derp men are better lolz” when someone praises the athletic success of women. Nope, that’s not a quote, but I think it’s a fair paraphrase of the intellectual quality of your contribution to the thread.
Disagreements of opinion are par for the course. But you leap from disagreeing with an opinion to assuming the person who holds it necessarily knows nothing about the sport, with nothing else to base this on. That’s just kind of pathetic, but not as pathetic as your testosterone-driven need to bash women’s soccer and insult the fans who enjoy it.
My 2 cents:
RedFury you seemed to go into that thread with an axe to grind.
Here are a couple questions for you and I do hope you answer them:
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When a team (any team, from any country in any sport) wins the gold, don’t you think it’s reasonable to say they are “awesome” at their sport (in this case soccer)?
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If the answer to #1 is “no”, does this mean that it is unlikely (not impossible but unlikely) that there are any “awesome” soccer players that are women in the entire world?
I have no problem responding to you as I feel your questions are both fair & respectful. I think It’s important to note that that was my second response in that thread. In my first post I merely asked what was so great about the save – while congratulating the US team on the Gold.
I then get two responses, one from Lamar stating it was an expected save and one from Knorf, championing the women’s game over the men’s.
The ensuing exchange can be followed either in the thread itself or by simply following the links in the OP. Thus no need to repeat it here.
No, not at all.
In most circumstances – and I have no reason to doubt this was one of them – sure, I’d say that is a fair claim.
Well, since my response was in the affirmative, the answer to this query would be the same: sure, there are.
Where it gets beyond “stupid” to my way of thinking, is when some posters start ragging on men’s football – a “sport” unto itself in the SDMB for as long as I’ve been here – and come up with posts such as this one:
Which, as you’ll note, I didn’t even respond to the next morning as I had already been given a warning. Point being, I don’t deny that there are fine female athletes in many a sport – it’d be ridiculous to do so – but to suggest that pro teams in European Football Leagues would be put out in stretchers in the match the US & Japan played in the Olympic final, is, quite honestly, beyond moronic. Most professional men’s club teams in the world could spot any woman’s NT 10 goals and still beat them handily. Or do you honestly think professional managers/team owners are going to shell out $90 million dollars, when they could buy a gal just as talented for say, $500,000? Where are they, pray tell? 'cause I’d become their agent faster that you could say “this one.”
Trust that answers your query.
The formal warning was certainly going overboard. I was taken aback when I saw it.
A non-formal warning to take that discussion to another thread would have been fine. It is a legitimate discussion, involving several people, not entirely off topic, even if I disagree with RedFury.
Thanks for answering, I appreciate it.
So, it sounds like the point you were making was that, just because a save was made by the US women’s soccer team to win, that doesn’t automatically make it a great save. It’s certainly possible to have a great save in women’s soccer, but we shouldn’t jump to that conclusion just because “our” team won and a save happened at about the same time.
Was this kind of your point?
I read the part you underlined differently than you, I think. I understood that to be a comment on the faked injuries being common in the men’s game, rather than saying that the women’s game was so tough that the men would end up being injured.
If I’ve read you wrong, I apologize. But I do think this is just a misunderstanding.
ETA: This is in response to RedFury’s post #25
You are correct.
Nope. Didn’t do that.
I too thought the original warning was a bit overboard, but the longer this thread goes on, the less and less sympathetic I’m feeling.
“Madness? THIS! IS! ATMB!”
My pleasure & spot on – that’s exactly the point. And the very reason I asked for details about said save. The whole “best save I’ve seen…” certainly piqued my interest as a footie fan & former goalie.
Out of curiosity, why do you feel that way?
I suppose if I did a handstand and read the post backwards, I might come to the same parsing that you did. But since I didn’t do that…
That said, I do appreciate your input. Apologies certainly not needed.