Anyone who’s hung in there with this thread would automatically qualify…
Hey, Moddie-Poo’s, look! [gestures wildly, and inappropriately] Over here! We be Teh KraaaaaaZee…
I absolutely believe this attitude is alien to you. This is because we are human beings, and you are a loon.
That’s pretty hilarious. It’s not against the rules to be crazy. I’m quite sure that we have any number of posters who have significant mental problems (or at least, their board personas do).
Ok, really - does anyone actually think that’s what she actually believes, or is it yet another attempt to get things stirred up?
There are people who are asshats and have kids, but also people who are not asshats and have kids. Whether or not a person has kids is immaterial to their being an asshat. Are parents who are also decent human beings so rare in your life?
I know it’s not against the rules to be crazy, I just figured that anyone with “significant mental problems” would sooner than later break enough rules to get tossed. Guess not.
Sort of. But my point was actually that even decent human being parents get into the mindset that the world should adjust to and accommodate their children. Such as the people across the street who don’t seem to think there is anything wrong with their kid or a friend screaming like she’s being skinned alive (it’s got to be a little girl doing it) for hours while she plays in the pool or when they rent a jumper. Or this business of raising children being the hardest job in the world, so we should give moms a break, especially single moms. Etc. It seems to have resulted in a lot of kids with very poor manners and little concept of personal property, and parents with serious entitlement attitudes.
I pitted the neighborhood kids for destroying flowers in my gardens and breaking large planters in our boulevard - most people here seemed to think I should just get over it because they are just kids. I pit the screaming pool/jumper parties going on until late at night- I’m told kids are allowed to have fun and I’m just a bitter old hag (still haven’t figured out how those two go together). I’m just tired of having to quit working in the garden because the toddlers that live kitty corner to us are out in the front yard screeching, or having to close up all the windows on hot summer nights because there’s another kid party going on across the street. If it were adults making that kid of noise after midnight, I doubt anyone would support it.
Anyway, this is going on too long, it’s just scratching the surface of what those of us who don’t think screaming babies and toddlers are cute have to put up with daily. And I really think that parents think they aren’t being asshats when they let their kids “just be kids” or “have fun”.
Sometimes kids make really revolting noises. Sometimes they’re a righteous pain in the arse to be around. Sometimes they vomit all over you, or when you really need them to be on their best behaviour they stuff it up.
But you know what? We were all kids at one point, and we are all guilty of all of the above and maybe more. And that’s why adults (for the most part) accept that kids are tiresome and boring and smelly and obnoxious and sometimes cute and oftentimes not…because we know that once upon a time we were just like that, and all those other adults gave us permission to grow into (sometimes) reasonable human beings.
Unless you’re curlcoat…in which case all concessions are hereby declared null and void.
On behalf of all parents who are doing their damndest to teach our children not to do the things above and to treat all people well (especially their elders):
GET STUFFED!
If I said that all black people did something or women or hispanics, it would be prejudice, right? Well, guess what this is dummy.
I don’t know if your parents missed this when you were growning up but adults are born into the world as babies and must survive through childhood to become adults. That means there are kids in our society. Suck it up, buttercup!
Yes, I was a kid once. But I have to tell you that I never ever stood in the front yard and screamed repeatedly. Never. Did you? Really? But the neighbor kids did that where I used to live. So I have a little sympathy with curlcoat.
I really, really doubt this is true. Because I really doubt that you remember what you were like before the age of, say, three. ALL two year olds get into screaming fits occasionally.
Maybe you are right but I guarantee that if I had a screaming fit it was held in the privacy of my home and probably with a parent’s hand over my mouth! I wasn’t saying I was a perfect child; I was saying my parents prevented me from disturbing the whole neighborhood.
The excuse that “we were all kids once” is so unbelievably stupid that I cannot understand why it keeps getting used. Except I suppose because those too lazy to parent must also be too lazy to come up with an intelligent reason why their kid is standing in their front yard screaming at nothing for 15 minutes.
Also, there are times when dogs and cats are “tiresome and boring and smelly and obnoxious”, but I work hard to make sure that the general public doesn’t have to put up with any of that. Not always perfect, but you can be damn sure that if something is going on, I’ll be on it right away. Because I have consideration for those around me.
If you are really doing all of that, why are you upset that I point out that there are parents who don’t?
I would be prejudice if I’d said all parents are allowing their kids to run amok, but since I didn’t…
Ah, so you aren’t a parent that does their damnedest to make sure their kids grow up to be polite and all that then? Otherwise, I wouldn’t have anything I’d have to suck up, would I? Well guess what. Those of us (and there are many) who are not happy having to deal with your “kids being kids” - making unreasonable noise, breaking others’ property, etc - have a right in our society to tell you that your parenting skills suck.
If you aren’t one of the parents with kids running amok across the landscape, why are you here defending them?
Thank you.
Sure they do, but the difference between good parenting and bad is the good parent will find out why the screaming is going on, try to stop it and at the very least remove it from the public view/hearing. Unfortunately, there are far too many parents these days that are more interested in their convenience than in the comfort of those around them.
This is what folks don’t seem to get. Yes, little kids scream but why is it that the whole neighborhood has to listen to it?
Yes, I know you helped take care of your siblings, which isn’t the same thing as raising a child as a responsible parent. Big deal. Whaddya want, a medal?
Fact is, you’re not being forced into anything. If you want to be a hermit, move to the woods. If you don’t want to move into the woods, accept that you are sharing your town or city with human beings, many of whom think you’re an irritating bitch but have to suck it up because that’s what being a human being is all about.
Not “helped take care”, raised from more or less birth to age 10. And no, I don’t want a medal, I merely answered your question.
Another of the stupid arguments. Because I have neighbors who allow their children to scream for hours, it is up to me to take a loss selling the house we love and move someplace where there are no asshole parents? Just for shits and giggles, where would you think that would be? It’s not like S Cal has a corner on them or anything.
Assuming your claims are factually true - of course, they’re probably inflated to the point of dishonesty - the thing is, Curly, that you don’t complain about the one house. You hate ALL kids. You’re no different from a person who has an irritating black neighbour ranting about your hatred of black people.
It’s your job to find a place you want to live, I’m not your real estate agent. If you don’t like people, California is certainly not a very promising place to live, inasmuch as it’s got rather a lot of people.
Right. Even if I did hate all kids, which I don’t, I am not ranting about a whole bloc of people. I am giving specific examples which include children and adults. So you have no idea what you are talking about, and I can only assume it is because you are just knee jerk reacting to someone who doesn’t automatically love your little demons.
Yup, California has a lot of people, and many maybe even most are no problem to live with. But like every other place in the country, there are those parents who cannot be bothered to pay attention to their kids, and/or teach them any manners, and/or be at all responsible for them. I direct your attention to this thread or this one for examples. I didn’t start either one of those threads, yet they are about the results of crappy parenting. So, again, since you think the answer is to move to some place where there aren’t any kids running amok at the pool or screaming in the movies, just where is this magical place?
Maybe it’s the same magical place where there aren’t any dog owners who let their fucking dogs bark their damn fool heads off at all hours of the day and night.
Yes, that is wrong. It is also illegal in most places, but kid screaming isn’t. Loud parties that run on too long, noisy motorcycles, cars blasting bass loud enough to shake windows - all of those are wrong, probably illegal and complained about. Only screaming kids are defended. Why is that?
I don’t care. I want to talk about dogs now. Because it is 2 am and there is a dog barking in my neighborhood but there are no children screaming, so the dog thing is more relevant.
Uh, OK - call the police. Or the neighbor. Go pound on their door. There are many socially acceptable ways to deal with it.