I go further. There is no junior modding going on. There is nothing remotely jerky about Czarcasm’s behavior. He consistently defends the Mod’s decisions: so what?
What’s really going on is that most critics of the mods here are thin-skinned hyper-sensitive snowflakes. (I bet you didn’t know that snowflakes had skins.) Mods respond by defending their actions. Czarcasm poses the calm and reasonable question: “What’s your problem?” At this point TWTB (The Whiners That Be) totally freak out.
Get a grip. There’s no junior modding going on. Implications to the contrary are delusional. If you can’t come up with a non-laughable example, you should at least consider the possibility that you are wrong.
Why? That was the whole point of the thread. Since I see repeated claims that he junior mods frequently, I would llike to see an example of that behavior.
I don’t know. I did not see it when it was posted and I do not know which staff members, if any, did see it. I do not issue Warnings days (or weeks) after an event. Did you report it?
I see a poster challenging other posters regarding questions of behavior in the way that the posters he addressed were challenging the behavior of the staff or other posters. I did not see him order another poster to change their behavior.
How are you defining “junior modding”?
Now, I would acknowledge that any number of Czarcasm’s posts in this forum are presented in a manner that ranges from defensive to hostile, but I have only seen one example of a rules violation despite repeated claims that he habitually violates the rules and I have still not seen an example of junior modding.
Plenty, but what would be the point of listing them? You’d just dodge them, as you did with the pot thing. If you actually bother to answer that, then there might be some point in listing his other misbehaviour.
That seems like an answer to me. He didn’t see it. He’s not sure whether there was even a report. And the water is way under the bridge. IMO, Peter Morris’ characterization is inaccurate.
My take is that if it’s an insult, it’s a pretty odd one. Calling somebody as “Pot” (as in Kettle-black) seems to me like saying: “Hey you’re just like me!” Of course context (and repetition) is all. In the event, I read it more like a quip. I doubt whether it would merit notice if some posters weren’t flustered up by Czarcasm’s entirely reasonable commentary.
I would say that the majority of posters who have complained about Czarcasm’s behavior and treatment, in this thread, have been hostile. There have been rather few posts that were completely free of sarcasm or snide remarks. (Certainly your “perks” comment qualifies, there.) What sanctions do you suggest for those posters? What is your explicit definition that provides a bright line demarcation of “being a jerk,” to distinguish the “good hostile” posts from the “bad hostile” posts?
The thread was opened to complain about junior modding–a point that no one has succeeded in substantiating. Now it seems to have fallen into a series of claims that when people attack the staff, Czarcasm responds to them in kind.
I would appreciate Czarcasm backing off on some of his responses, simply to reduce the number of complaints about him, but I have never been impressed by the “he hit me back first” defense being offered to challenge his right to post an opinion.
Tom is a mod. Mods read ATMB threads complaining about Mod actions.
I’m sure that he would have read the Diamonds02thread.
He may not have noticed the pot remark, but surely he would have seen the discussion that followed, starting in post #74-#81 and several other posts. And yes, clearly the insult WAS reported.
He would also have read the mhendothread. And he would have seen a whole load of discussion about it in that thread.
And if he really didn’t read those threads, then he was negligent. He certainly should have done.
Not a valid excuse, IMHO. So, the violation occurred several days ago, and the mods didn’t act upon it. And now, Tom refuses to act simply because several days have passed. It doesn’t excuse the lack of moderator action at the time.
Exactly. The context is that it was in response to something that was ruled as a personal insult. Thus the ‘pot’ response, equivalent to saying the same thing right back at him, is also a personal insult.
Not at all. I’m posting relevent questions about Czarcasm’s misbehaviour. That is in no way threadshitting.
Now, will you please answer the question. Right here, right now, you have been told about Czarcasm making personal insults against another poster. Are you going to do anything about it?
Not necessarily true. If it does not appear to be a thread about an action that I took or failed to take, why would I read it? If the complaint is in regards to the actions of some other Mod, I will generally only read it if it appears to be something that is not resolved AND that looks to be an issue of general interest, as opposed to an issue in which I have no particular interest.
And you would be wrong. Diamonds02 never posts in Great Debates and I do not recall having encountered Diamonds02’s posts in any other forum. With no background knowledge of the poster and no knowledge of the event, I have had no impetus to read that thread.
Sorry. There is no “negligence” involved in choosing to not read threads on topics or posters with which I have no direct involvement. Mhendo has not posted in Great Debates in months. I have seen some of his posts in The BBQ Pit, but they did not attract my attention. When you pay my salary, you get to tell me what I must read. I devote sufficient time to Great Debates and I still don’t get a chance to read every post. This thread had run a couple of days before a comment in another location prompted me to open it.
I neither defend nor condemn that lack of moderator action at the time. It did not come to my attention and I do not know the thoughts of the staff who may have seen it beyond what has been posted in this thread. You are welcome to challenge those Mods. However, this board has never had a policy of issuing Warnings for events that have gotten old, so attacking me for not doing something long after the fact makes no sense. If you want to change that policy to promote Warnings on old events, open a new thread to discuss it. I suspect that you will not find a lot of support for such a change, but you are welcome to present it. (And, since I proposed you submit it, that thread I will read.)