The DACA kids gave their contact information to the government. This is quite different than people the government are not aware of.
The government is pretty aware of at least a lot of the 11 million undocumented people living in this country. They could certainly find 800,000 to deport. Lots of people benefit from a vast exploitable underclass. I don’t see why they would disrupt that. Filling it with people that have even more to lose and so are more exploitable–and often better educated, so more skilled–is a feature, not a bug.
I’ve never checked ID’s on any of my nieces’ friends who crashed on their spare beds or floors or any of my nephews’ friends who slept in the cars or trailers parked on our property, so I may have well already done this. Generally anyone who obeys the house rules and needs a place to stay is all right. We can find them something to do to earn their keep if it’s long term.
No,
My neighbors know people back in the Philippines who are trying to immigrate but cannot. Why should this person who’s here illegally get to stay when they cannot?
What if I protect this person and they arent so nice? What if they later commit a crime and they find out I was harboring them?
Is everyone of them so perfect? What if you found out the person was a troublemaker?
Where do you draw the line saying THIS person I’d protect but NO, to this other person?
Or would you? Would you just protect everyone?
Do you feel ok if they committed a crime and you are partially responsible because you gave them shelter? Remember that case just last month in San Fransisco where the illegal killed a woman.
What if you donate blood or perform CPR to save the life of someone and later find out they were a serial killer? Helping someone is sometimes a risk.
Actually, no. I don’t remember that. But, then again, I don’t usually watch Fox News. I do know that some red blooded American citizens kill other American citizens every day.
I have no reason to believe the crime rate among Dreamers is higher than any other group living here.
I can’t actually say for certain what I’d do, but I lean toward yes, just because I’m a contrary cuss if I imagine that I can get away with it. We’re talking about people that grew up here, and really are US Citizens in all but name. I find it to be a shameful and abusive, bullying waste to deport someone like that.
After some consideration I voted yes - though it wouldn’t be pleasant for either of us. I live in a small and extremely cluttered apartment with virtually no free space. I also can’t and don’t cook, and wouldn’t consider my stove to be in a safely usable state at the moment. So in an emergency I could sack a person or two out on my living room floor, feeding them the same microwave and deli food I eat. Nobody would be enjoying the situation, particularly if it lasted for more than a day or two. On the upside I at least have enough money to feed all of us, for certain values of feeding.
If these people are kids I would be utterly unqualified to take care of them. Even if they’re like twelve. Or sixteen. Or twenty.
I would spend the entire time worried they’d mess with and possibly damage my stuff. Not because they’re fugitives - because they’re not me. I don’t let my best friends handle my stuff, so it’s nothing personal. (And this all goes times fifty if they’re kids - I’d be scared to leave the apartment to go to work.)
If the cops came to my door I would stonewall, play innocent/dumb, and refuse to let them in without ever admitting anything. However I’m a terrible liar who would broadcast guilt so the cops would be back with a warrant within minutes.
Any fugitives would probably be better off staying somewhere else.
So the solution to our unfair immigration policy is making sure it’s unfair to everyone? Or are you under the impression that when one person leaves the country, the bouncer lets someone else past the velvet rope?
If they are unemployed, they will also eventually be homeless. They likely have no savings, so they will be evicted quickly once they don’t pay rent.
There’s a reason why housing them is a financial burden, and why I said that, while I wish I could, I would not be able to afford to help. If they could pay rent, then money wouldn’t be a problem.
Most of us can’t give them a job, but that doesn’t mean those who can afford to help out monetarily shouldn’t do so. Most Dopers seem to make more money than I do, at the very least. Hell, a lot of you seem to have six figure incomes.
And, anyways, there’s still jobs like housekeeping, babysitting, gardening, etc. I’m sure the richer Dopers could find people something to do, under the table.
No. I have my own problems as well as other reasons, none of which I need to justify to anyone.
Some volunteers who were trying to help prevent crossing deaths in border deserts by leaving accessible water and supplies are being prosecuted:
I’d expect that similar prosecution would be likely if the scenario in my OP came true, for anyone who chose to house a vulnerable Dreamer.
OK,HERE is the story reported off of NBC. Get off your high horse that everything comes from fox news.
BTW, notice the man was NOT convicted and has been deported 7 times.
Thank you sanctuary city!
I vote “no”. I’m not nearly as interested in helping out illegal immigrants, even ones brought here as children, as I am in avoiding a felony charge.
Yanno, this is a good point.
I still stand by my statement. I’d do it, if I thought I could get away with it. Maybe even if I didn’t think I’d get away with it and knew I’d end up facing charges for “harboring a whoever” or whatever the charges would be.
I don’t really have a lot, but I do have a little, and I’m willing to share, even though it puts me that much closer to a one paycheck disaster.
Yes.
My grandfather went to the camps for hiding Jews. Am I to be any less?
Again, this is NOT the same thing.
Most dont get deported anyways unless they commit some crime.
And what if the person does something wrong with your kid or steals from you or gets drunk and does something? What is they mess with your neighbors?
Your really setting yourself up for liability.
The hypothetical specifically stated that (1) your fugitive would totally get deported and (2) that a close friend or relative vouched that the fugitive would be a good houseguest.
I get that this isn’t the same thing as if the US government was hypothetically going to send them to concentration camps and murder them, but that’s no reason to fight the hypothetical.
Well, that seems to be the common belief. The reality is different, however. They are identified, they are arrested, they are deported.
This. Is. Happening.