What? I told him that if he gets offended by satire, no matter what the purpose behind the writing is, he shouldn’t read the most famous piece of satire at all?
I didn’t say Swift was up there with Dame Edna. The man seems to be offended by ALL satire.
I wouldn’t be so sure, since Dame Edna’s been “hacking” for quite a few years already and seems unlikely to give it up soon.
Don’t know where you got that impression. I read all of Cahco’s posts and he comes nowhere near being some kind of anti-satire fundie.
In fact, he mentions being a “long-time Onion reader.” Being another one myself, that actually says to me that the man has a very keen sense of satire. 
As for you saying that the the comparison wasn’t made, well, I am not going to get into a protracted he said/she said discussion. What was and wasn’t said or implied is out there for everyone to read and discern.
Don’t know where you got that impression. I read all of Chaco’s posts and he comes nowhere near being some kind of anti-satire fundie.
In fact, he mentions being a “long-time Onion reader.” Being another one myself, that actually says to me that the man has a very keen sense of satire.
As for you saying that the the comparison wasn’t made, well, I am not going to get into a protracted he said/she said discussion. What was and wasn’t said or implied is out there for everyone to read and discern.
Cite? Having read John Lahr’s book and numerous articles on BH and DEE and having read a couple of Dame Edna’s books I never came away with the idea that BH himself was “deeply conservative” or particularly opposed or dismissive to the empowerment of minorities. The man’s a dadaist, fer heaven’s sake, which sort of is the opposite of “conservative.”
Heh. “Riff-raff.” That’s funny. She’s been around for years, published several books, had her own television show, has fans worldwide, and she’s “riff-raff.” No, she’s not swift, but puh-lease - get over yourself, Mary. :rolleyes:
Never heard of Bruce Lenny. Does that make me “riff-raff,” too? :rolleyes:
“Obviously did?” Hardly obvious, my dear boy, since not everyone is in agreement. If it’s your opinion, that’s fine, but it’s hardly “obvious” (and if it were, then it must be “obvious” that you might be the one who missed the mark by that country mile).
Esprix
I am glad to see that some other people have responded and said that they were offended as well. Even though I get the whole satire thing, it still doesn’t sit well with me. I will admit that it was much easier to lighten after I saw a picture of her.
Regardless, I still feel that people would be hurt and offended if I were to throw around racial slurs, stereotypes, amd epithets even if I were to put on a clown outfit and call myself El Chaco Loco.
Thanks RedFury for taking the time to read my responses. You beat me to the Andrew Dice Clay reference. I think most people will agree that he was an unfunny, insensitive prick. Whether that was satire is debatable, but over all his routines were pretty offensive.
You want real PC sensitivity bullshit. Read the Southwest thread. That is truly ridiculous.
Oh, Redboss
I just finished reading the news and I might need you afterall, but for protection. :Nervous smilie: Damn, scary times. You must feel lucky to live Australia.
Hmmm…I’m thinking of changing my name to RedChaco:)
My future sig line. Said by RedFury:
Perfectly describes how I started this thread.
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Bully for her/him. But what the fuck does that have to do with the quality of her writing? If the example provided here is any indication of her prowess as a satirist, you’re right, I am Mary, Queen of Scots…and Pewee Herman’s about to join the pantheon of literary geniuses.
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You tell me. All I’ve seen so far is a tendency to abuse the rolleye smilie. No big whoop, mind you, but good sarcam doesn’t need the visual aids.
Get it, dahlin’?
This just in:
“A certain Dame Edna wrote a satirical piece castigating the stereotyping of Hispanics in English speaking countries. Seems like the only ones laughing, are the Anglos she is supposed to be deriding.”
BTW, feeling a bit insecure? Or is there really a need to sign your name to each and every post you make?*
*Feel free to insert smilie of your own chosing.
Chaco,
Welcome to the SDMB. Don’t let the newbie-bashing affect you. It is hardly representative of the majority of posters here.
I’ve enjoyed reading your posts and look forward to reading many more.
O sea, frente en alto y ni puto caso al rebaño de ovejas que pretenden dictar como has de reaccionar ante la porqueria de articulo que te llevo a abrir este subforo.
Enjoy the sig!
Hola muchahas e muchachos!! NON PEGAR EL CABALLO MUERTO!!
el patron rojo
Redfury, stop - your scathing reparte is killing me here.
:rolleyes: (Just for good measure.)
Dame Edna has an august body of work that speaks literally volumes about why she’s so popular - she’s funny, she’s good at what she does, and she’s entertaining. That some people, who don’t know anything about her or her work, didn’t get her humor for one paragraph when far more did, and then put out petitions against her because of an unintended and unimplied slight… well, that also speaks volumes, but about them, not her.
IMHO, that is. Obviously YMMV. So be it.
Esprix
How about the people that won’t put out any petition or anythign of the such and STILL think that the piece in question was seriously unfunny? FWIW I read that in another forum where it was presented as a legit thing, I didn’t feel particularly offended, just thought the writer was clueless. Then I read it was an attempt at satire and I STILL thought the writer was clueless. Go figure.
BTW, nobody is expecting the Spanish inquisition.
In that case, Mighty_Girl, if you feel strongly enough, you start an IMHO or CafSoc thread about how Barry Humphries isn’t a good comedian. No problem there whatsoever. You’d probably get lots of agreement.
That’s not the same thing as starting a pit thread about Dame Edna Everage, who, as I’m sure you know by now, does not exist as a real person.
And please note, I’m not having another shot at Chaco, I believe that Chaco performed well in this thread once the initial confusion was cleared.
Is redboss talking about Lenny Bruce? Is that who he is trying to name?
Who the hell is Bruce Lenny?
I don’t feel strongly enough to start a thread in IMHO or CafeSoc or anywhere. I am just (like you) giving my opinion on the matter in a thread that somebody else started. Notice I said I am not particularly offended. I not even particularly interested in the matter, there is real racism out there that should be fought against.
Mighty_Girl, as I said, saying “Yes, I realize it’s satire, but I still think it’s not funny,” makes sense - not everyone finds the same things funny. But taking offense at a comedic character whose premise is her cluelessness and lack of sensitivity is, well, a lot of hot air, IMHO.
Esprix
Fair 'nuff. I’m willing to chalk it up to a difference of opinion and leave the hot air out of it.
As the Patron Rojo said, and I paraphrase, “este caballo no come mas pienso.”
Look forward to arguing with you in some other thread.
“Este caballo no come mas pienso” Huh?
I was a lot happier before I knew Dame Edna was a man. A lot happier.
Pienso = feed. A blend of corn, barley, soy and different additives given to farm animals – mostly for cattle and horses. Not sure if it’s a word indigenous to Spain. You might have a different name for it.
Should be:
¡ Hola chicas y chicos !! ¡NO LE PEGEN AL CABALLO MUERTO!!
And it sounds better if you say: El Jefe Rojo
That would make a 
handle I think.