Damn you Apple and your vicious, brilliant, decisions

I’ve never gotten an applause either. I don’t think it actually happens.

That seems like a dumb way to choose a product. It’s not like you do the same things that do. In fact, for all of the supposed capabilities that PC’s have, I see more people needing them fixed and debugged than anything. When it comes to security, Apple is at the top. I suspect that is why my IP heavy tech company is all Apple.

So whenever someone complains about a PC problem, Mac users can now come in and shit all over PC’s? It happens quite often as PCs seem to have endless issues, but I don’t seem to recall Mac users making a habit of turning every PC issue into a Mac bs PC fight. In fact, it only happens in Mac threads. I think there is a pit thread on the SystemTools2011 virus right now. Let me go check.

Just got back checking the other thread. Nope. Not a single person mentioned that Macs aren’t vulnerable to this virus. In fact, I haven’t used an antivirus program for years.

When it comes to security, Apple is at the bottom.

As I’ve said before, the I-pad is a great device but you’re stuck with Apple’s way or the highway. The user pays extra for the privilege of less internet functionality but as devices go it is more fun to play with. It’s certainly the best graphic viewer I’ve ever seen. I’ll just suffer with my full function laptop that cost less, and can play DVD’s, and CD’s, and accept any USB device, and run Flash, and has a built in keyboard, and has HDMI and monitor outputs, can be tilted in my lap so I don’t have to hold it …

I work at an Apple Store, and we absolutely do not clap for every person who leaves with a purchase. In six months of work, we have never clapped for a purchase. We clapped once, and that was for the first people who came in when we opened the doors for the iPhone 4 launch.

Seriously? That’s your measure? I’ll remember not to decrypt my computer files and hand my computer over to foreign nationals for a day then.

It definitely does happen, I have been walking past Apple Stores and witnessed it. A quick Google brings these responses to a thread on the subject:

etc. etc.

There are also plenty of responses from people who have bought Macs and not been applauded but it definitely does happen.

If you’re not using anti-virus software you’ll probably be doing just that because viruses for Mac’s are on the rise.

you’re confusing “safety” with “security.” the two are quite different.

after all, if it weren’t for security flaws in iOS, jailbreaking wouldn’t be possible.

Mittu, my point is that it does not happen ‘every time someone buys a Mac’. Also, we know that we have a reputation for this clapping thing, so we make fun of ourselves quite a lot. A few of us will clap out someone who has had a particularly difficult transaction (if AT&T has given them some trouble upgrading their phone) or in an employee who is clocking in, just for fun. Sometimes we can tell that people would get a kick out of it, so one person will clap and a few others will join, and it’s a joke that the customer and the employees are in on. We also clap out employees on their last day of work. I just don’t see how it would be feasible for a whole store of employees to stop working and clap out someone every time someone buys a computer - I mean, honestly, we’re too busy selling other people stuff. Basically, if it happens it’s because the people doing it, including the customer, are just having a good natured fun time - not because we think it’s some huge deal to get a computer.

As for that guy in Chermside (wherever that is), he just sounds like a tool.

Seriously, you’re believing a site that claims there are 170,000 viruses for the Mac?

The news media was telling me that Mac viruses were on the rise in 1995, and 1996, and 1997, and … and 2008, and 2009, and now 2010.

In that time I have never seen a Mac virus in the wild, and I deal with literally hundreds of Macs, in all sorts of environments. Not once, ever. Wake me when they start actually affecting people other than anti-virus sales companies. I’d be willing to bet they’re basically just counting all the Windows viruses that can be passed through a Mac e-mail program or something.

And I work for a company that would LOVE there to be a significant virus presence on the Mac, for marketing reasons.

I know that there’s some odd need for PC people to believe that Macs are a festering hole of viruses and malware, or that they’re just about to be, but in terms of user experiences, it’s just not the case. Certainly there are legitimate reasons not to prefer Apple or the Macintosh – why invent fictional ones?

I’m always willing to be educated :slight_smile:

I have witnessed it personally as I said, not sure if it was done in jest or not but it certainly seems to be widely believed and observed regardless of the motivation for doing it. I know that as a result I would only buy Apple devices from non-Apple stores!

Reported my own post – this was directed at the anti-virus companies, not an implication that Magiver is lying. Sorry for the wording.

  1. Threadshitting

Ruling: Fellow Apple users grousing amongst themselves is one thing; someone coming in to say all Apple users are morons is threadshitting. Don’t do it.

  1. Insults

I didn’t read that as an accusation of lying made against a specific person – I think your apology suffices there, I’m not going to change the original post.

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

We’ve had this debate before. There is a categorical difference between being able to be hacked. and you will be hacked if you use this product and don’t use protection.

Today, right now, it’s not necessary to protect your mac in the same ways it is required you protect your PC. The types and methods used to infect a Mac are invariably people based (go to this site, with Safari), and pretty easy to avoid (interestingly enough, buy using a more popular browser, Firefox, with it’s additional protections in NoScript and AdBlock). I’d rather do this than pay a tithe to any of the major anti-virus companies, THEN suffer the performance hit of constantly scanning my system.

Are there exposures in the Apple Armor? Yup. Do they amount to a big problem? Not yet. Will they in the future? Most Likely, but maybe not…mostly because the Operating system’s base assumptions are better from the get go, and not the patch on a patch on a band-aid, on a patch that is Windows.

But that has fuckall to do with the iPad not supporting profiles, and if it’s an intentional feature to sell more units.

This is so true. I actually fell for this and bought an Anti-Virus program about 12 years ago. What a waste of money. I think the only people that push this information are PC manufacturers and AV writers. I have no doubt that they found these viruses, but where did they look? None of them are even noteworthy. These aren’t successful self-propagating viruses.

I wonder if they are counting viruses on Macs running Windows.

Incidentally, I find the mobile versions of Facebook to be extremely crappy. They don’t even show all of the relevant posts. I made a snarky comment on a post one time, only to go to the full version to find that it was a link to something another friend of mine had created. For some reason, his post didn’t show up in my mobile browser.

Mail is a bit of a nuisance, but since my wife is a PC user, its not really an option for her. At least, I’m not aware of any way to sync your PC to get mail with an iPad. No doubt, if you can, it’s extremely complicated to set up.

More than that, I was surprised there wasn’t a Facebook HD app, then realized just going to the website was 100% like hitting it from a bigger computer, so an app wasn’t really necessary.

mittu, check your PMs. =)

I have never seen this happen at the Apple store in the Eaton Centre in Toronto, and that place is always jammed with people. On the other hand, my high-value Apple purchaes happen to have been through resellers or the Web.

I thought your Mac was only supposed to get the clap when you bought it and took it out of the store.