And here I thought it was “teach a pig to fish”.
Yes, relative to very costly oil but everything is going to be more expensive while the economy shrinks.
Actually, I believe the world will be better for some people (better food, more active lifestyles), esp those who start working to toward local sustainability now.
No significant portion of the economy will be devoted towards local sustainability until energy from wind, solar, etc. is cheaper than energy from oil.
Since locally sustainable energy is currently more expensive than oil, changing now will cause the economy to shrink sooner rather than later. Oil wins again.
It is highly unlikely that adhay and/or the producer of the video (which I’m not going to squander more fossil fuel energy watching) are going to gain converts by referring to the target audience as pigs, stupid, malicious, myopic or in denial.
As a tangible step towards ridding himself of dependence on vanishing energy sources and gaining local sustainability, I suggest that adhay make arrangements to send me all those foolish consumer items that he will shortly be unable to use anyway because of the post-peak oil apocalypse. It will help free him from dependence on “things”, and the glut of personal items will sicken me and hasten the day when I join adhay’s neighborhood of locally sustainability.
E-mail me - while there is still time.
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The author presents a series of graphs of many oil variables (discovery, production, price, etc) against economic factors (credit, GDP, etc) over time and reaches the following conclusion.
This is the best presentation of the problem I have ever seen. I have downloaded it and plan to turn it into a slide show. It’s a natural pair with A Crude Awakening.
The download includes the comments on the article which contain a wealth of insight and personal expertise. Worth price of admission in itself.
If it’s too much trouble for you to spend some time with something so easily obtainable and so informative on the major single issue facing you and the world today, you might want to stop in at my Pig Singing School.
BTW, it’s a joke.
The adage is “Build a pig a fire and he’ll be warm for a day. Set a pig on fire and you’ll have barbeque all week.”
God as my witness, I thought pigs could fly.
You could, but they would just sit around in a boat and drink beer all day.
…and then go wee wee all the way home.
“Teach a pig to fish and he’ll eat for a day,
Teach a pig to fish and he’ll sit on the boat and pout because you didn’t bring him another fish.”
The ignorance and stupidity of the argument is here distilled into one sentence. How very efficient of the reviewer.
One resource becomes scarce and expensive; people start using others instead. This is what has been happening since the Stone Age (which did not end because the world ran out of stone).
Actually, what happens is that alcohol or biodiesel or liquefied coal or something becomes competitive and takes over the market niche.
Hardly. Local sustainability (ake “juche”) doesn’t seem to have made anybody’s life better (I’m not counting the rulers, who can exempt themselves whenever they like).
Why on earth would anybody want to develop sailing ships when we already have perfectly good ships that perform much better without using fossil fuels?
Come, now, don’t be afraid of the “N” word…
That doesn’t change the price of the old stuff though.
And, you’re supposing that there is enough volume of alcohol or biodiesel to take the place of the petroleum being currently used. My personal opinion is that there is going to be a catching-up period where a lot of time and effort is spent casting about for cheap energy sources to take the place of petroleum. It’s just human nature.
Not to mention how many of those alternative fuels involve petroleum at some point in their production.
Let me quote from the 1st paragraph in the OP
Now, tom, if that’s more than a playful metaphor (pittable) to you, I suggest you take a break.
Nice ETA, tom. Once again, you got to spew your drek as a poster under mod colors. Welcome to Pit.
So let me ask you, what would YOU be looking at if gas at the pumps went to $6/gal, forever. It’s worse than that but let’s just talk about $6/gal. What’s your best guess?
Also, thanks for your ever evenhanded moderating, no sarcasm.
After all, I only came here to “fight” my own ignorance. Overcoming or dispelling ignorance is not “fight”. It’s a matter of looking the facts and making intelligent decisions based on your assessment of them.
All I’m bringing to the table is some information.
And thanks to all those here who fueled this past year of research. Bunch of trolls. 
(smiley for tom’ sake).
Ahem, tom, I’m waiting. How about a comment on my post?
And while you’re at it, consider moving the thread back to GD.
Do you not see some parallels in your moderating of my infamous Lenin Was The Tits thread and my Dancing School For Pigs?
Late in the game, you jump in with your mod-fu, declare the debate resolved against the OP then in one case close it (reopened when I took it to ATMB) and in this case, moved it to the Pit, as moderator and then threaten me with warning as a poster. This is the Pit so, wtf?
Your modding in Lenin taught me one thing, make clear your point in the OP if you use would playful metaphors in your thread title. There are those posters and at least one mod with neither a sense of humor nor a real interest in looking at some issues. These are the folks, who will basically ignore the OP, seize on a word or phrase in it and start their thread shitting.
So, tom?