I may only get one of the following RPG: Dark Souls (for my Xbox360) or Skyrim (for my PC). Which one should I fork out money for?
Get Skyrim for the PC, but wait until some good mods come out to de-consolify it.
What madmonk said.
I’m sure darksouls is a decent game, but the more polished, larger game will be Skyrim.
(Skyrim on PC = win! ) + Mods = Pwnage!
Frankly I don’t know why the Darksoul/Demon soul devs don’t release the game on PC.
PC gamers LOVE this type of RPG.
And demon Souls sold like 400,000 in a year on PS3, while the Witcher, a similar effort on the PC sold 1 million units in half that time.
It’s like throwing money out the window.
Demon Souls is by far one of the best games ever, if Dark Souls comes anywhere close to it then it should be miles ahead of Skyrim.
Hadn’t even heard of Dark Souls. Now you have me checking reviews out for it.
I picked up Dark Souls tonight because I enjoyed dying in Demon Souls.
This game is fucking hard.
Let me know if you get it on 360.
I’ll be picking up Dark Souls tomorrow and will probably get Skyrim when it comes out, but honestly Dark Souls is the one I’m looking forward to the most. The online functionality sounds fantastic.
I’m going to get Dark Souls on thursday, since we’re two days behind the US on cool stuff like that. I’m full of glee over Skyrim, but being realistic I’m probably going to have to wait until after Christmas when it’s been suitably adjusted and I have the kind of spare time it deserves. (Also, I’ve got a bloody huge backlog of games and a lot of games coming out in October that will keep me busy until Christmas, easily.)
Put about 4 hrs into Dark Souls so far and really like it a lot. This game MUST be played with the help of online forums and whatnot. There is no handholding whatsoever and the manual has nothing beyond telling you how to turn the game on. You can’t even tell how many souls you need to level up your character. From what I’ve heard you can actually take each of the 8 stats up to lvl 99 so the game has a very long playtime. It’s really hard but for some reason I’m not finding it to be as hard as Demon Souls was when I first played it. Maybe it’s because I knew what to expect or something. I started with a Knight which seems to be a decent character as I’m able to kill all kinds of shit. I’ve only died one time in 4 hrs of playtime and that was when I fought the first boss.
Otherwise the game is great.
I have succumbed to temptation. I’ve bought Dark Souls, and will probably get Skyrim when it’s on discount on Steam (like many other games I wish to have - Desu Ex, maybe Heroes 6 and Portal 2).
Other players can drop in-game hints; I’ve found a neat cache of treasure just after the first boss thanks to one. However, there are also numerous false misleading hints too.
Been playing this alot more than I expected to. Dark Souls is an amazing game and I’m enjoying the he’ll out of it. It is VERY slow moving but the atmosphere is great. The combat is some of the tightest, fairest sword play you can find anywhere. Every low level fight feels powerful and satisfying. Enemies rarely do dumb shit and are great at behaving as a human would. Very few “attack patterns” to memorize as they really seem to think along with you.
Great game but so hard. I’m having an easier time with this than I did Demon Souls but I think I’m in the minority there.
Because it’s from a small Japanese dev and the Japanese PC gamer market is utterly insignificant.
I don’t know much about Dark Souls, but I’ve heard that it’s very linear compared to something like TES. I don’t know if it’s more like Fable or something, but since there’s online capabilities similar to Fable’s latest games, this means that the story and all around gameplay and RPG experience has suffered severely. The original Fable was a whole lot better than the later ones (still linear though, not really an RPG), mainly it was better because the devs were only focused on the game itself and making everything awesome.
Time after time I’ve seen games go south and merely because the devs wanted to appeal to people who like to play multiplayer and stupid stuff like that, Halo will never recover from this, the story in Reach sucked, the series dropped off a cliff with Halo 2, now it’s so dead Bungie has to pass it off to someone else. Don’t get me wrong, Halo 2, 3, and even ODST, were pretty good, but Reach flat out failed, it’s the only one in the series that I didn’t play through several times, I only beat it on Legendary simply out of respect for it’s predecessors (I don’t play Halo games on anything less than Legendary BTW ;)). The only thing that’s good about it is the multiplayer, and that gets super boring after a while, there’s no interest, no purpose, no victory,…no story.
I just pray that Todd Howard will never allow TES to go the same way as so many others. If people so desperately want to play online multiplayer games, then their should be a genre just for that, and those games should only have multiplayer with no story (main game), since any story they put on there will suck righteously. Then any devs that want to truly make a story without the added pressure of feeling like they also need multiplayer can focus 100% on making their story awesome, hey, they could even make a multiplayer version of their game after they’re totally through with the real game, just so long as they don’t let the real game suffer for it is all.
Ooops, I got a little carried away on my beef with multiplayer games, didn’t I. Sorry 'bout that, but you guys know it’s true, somewhere in your hearts you know there’s a major problem due to this multiplayer phenomenon. When I was growing up, there were very few multiplayer games, and trust me, there were none that were online, this is a recent disease that’s infected gaming altogether, and TES seems to be the last line of defense in warding off this strange mutation…long live Todd Howard!!!
Disagaea syndrome to me. As in, the idea that I could buy the PC rights to Disgaea and make a fortune off releasing it on Steam…
What does the Japanese PC game market have to do with a localized Darksouls release?
Yeah, I’ve been playing it for the past couple of days, and I was pretty amazed when I was fighting some low-level enemy early in the game, and he jumped back and pulled out an Estus flask.
Unfortunately, I think after investing some time into it (more than I’d care to admit), I’m going to be forced to start over from scratch. I’m in a position where there’s an enemy I’m just not at a high enough level yet to beat, and I won’t survive the journey back to the hub.
If it wasn’t so damn fun, I’d almost be disappointed.
They’re utterly different games, so I guess you’d have to pick what kind of person you are.
Personally, I plan to get both, but to me they’re not really in the same genre. Skyrim is an open sandbox RPG. Dark Souls, while it has RPG elements, isn’t sandboxy and doesn’t have the typical setup of an RPG. Games like Dark Souls are more like the spiritual successor to adventure games than anything like most RPGs.
Dark Souls / Demon Souls / King’s Field are all games by the same developer, and they end up being highly difficult, but are also very thoughtful, exploratory games with careful combat and little to none of the usual fantasy RPG set dressing. There’s no running to town to pick up quests then going off to fantasy dungeons. They feel, to me, more like survival horror than any of the TES games – they’re about fear, about challenge, about surprise, about failure and death, not about leveling up your shit.
Don’t get me wrong. I love the Elder Scrolls, and I plan to play the bejeezus out of Skyrim, but I just don’t see any obvious way to compare these utterly dissimilar concepts.
By the way, if you like Dark Souls/Demon Souls, pick up one of my favorite games ever, King’s Field: The Ancient City for PS2. I don’t think I’ve ever had a more satisfying gaming experience, honestly. It’s just an amazing game.
I started over when I found out I should’ve picked the Master Key for my gift during character creation. It’s the only one you can’t find in game. Oddly though I’ve only found one door to unlock with it.
Also make sure you go to the upper bell first and not the lower.
Dark Souls isn’t linear at all. You can go anywhere and do anything as long as you can survive.
This is pretty much dead on correct. If you like to level up and get phat lootz all the time you will be greatly disappointed with DS.