I read the plot and saw the previews, and since it was all about Time Travel 9wh9ch really wasnt a big Flash thing), I am gonna skip it.
Black Adam was decent but not great, The three Justice Society members made the film, especially Doctor Fate.
Anti-hero, not villian.
Either way, I don’t think it worked.
Though based on The Flash and The Suicide Squad, I’d be cautiously optimistic about them turning this around. But for the fact the both failed to do well at the box office, of course 
The James Gunn Superman could change everything though, if he hits out the park the way Nolan did with Dark Knight (and the suits don’t meddle too much), maybe?
Sure, I get that.
Oh man, I’m sorry! Won’t happen again.
I thought the Flash did time travel fairly often?
In the TV shows? Yeah,. that was why I stopped watching.
Well, in the animated Justice League and Justice League unlimited., in the nearly 100 episodes, I dont remember Flash ever doing that. Nor in the recent JL film. Nor in the comics I read, but that was the Silver age, so I am dated there.
It’s not clear from this if you realize that the live-action Spider-Man movies are also technically not Marvel Studios films: Sony has had the film rights to Spider-Man since before there was a Marvel Studios or MCU.
But, in recent years, the two studios have been collaborating on use of Spider-Man – the character (as portrayed by Tom Holland) has appeared in MCU films, and MCU characters (e.g,. Tony Stark, Doctor Strange) have appeared in Spider-Man films.
It’s been a significant aspect of his power set since around 1961.
You know what would get me totally on board with either DC or Marvel? Have some cosmic character rejigger the universe so that any character that tries to time travel or journey to an alternate universe is instantly vaporized. It’s been done to death an is now just a writer’s crutch to shoehorn stuff into continuity.
It’s been a fundamental part of super hero comics for more than sixty years now. Might as well demand that nobody wear spandex any more.
I thought Disney had also acquired some of that IP in recent years too, hence why more MCU cross overs? Either way I’ve not rated any of the live action Spiderman films, the absolute best are just OK, and most are pretty awful IMO.
Technically none of them wear spandex. 
I think Disney acquired the Fantastic Four when they bought Fox Studios.
And X-Men.
No, Sony (actually, a specific producer at Sony) owns the film rights pretty much forever, and they aren’t interested in giving them up. However, their Spider-Man movies didn’t do great, particularly compared to MCU movies, so they worked out a profit sharing scheme that lets Disney use the character. Sony could, theoretically, take the character back entirely and not let Disney use him any more, but since their independent Spider-Man-adjacent movies (Venom, Morbius, etc.) keep doing badly, it’s unlikely that they’ll pull the plug on the only source of genuine revenue they’ve managed to squeeze out of the property.
Marvel owns the Spider-Man IP itself (and always has), but they had sold the film rights for Spider-Man (and a range of associated characters, like Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson, the Green Goblin, Venom, etc.) to Sony in 1998, and it appears that Sony can continue to hold those film rights in perpetuity, as long as they continue to produce a new Spider-Man film every five years or so.
The relatively recent change to that license is that, in 2015, Sony and Marvel Studios (Disney) reached an agreement to cooperate on Spider-Man’s film appearances. However, despite this arrangement, Sony still retains primary control over the Spider-Man films (financing, distribution, creative control).
Now that I have seen both The Flash (2023) and The Suicide Squad (2021), the answer is definitely not in the first case and possibly in the second. The Flash clearly did not have the same production values as the Marvel movies do in general. The first sequence with the babies was fun but uneven and the stakes were not well developed at the beginning of the film.
On the other hand The Suicide Squad wasted little time on exposition. You understood it right away and then got going. Even though it can be tough to manage an ensemble cast, it was handled well and the final product was very enjoyable.
I think it will take more than one good film (or two, I think Wonder Woman (2017) was also good) to pull ahead or break even.
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I could not stand Ezra Miller in Justice League. That was the worst part of a bad movie in my opinion.
I actually thought they did a decent job in The Flash. I don’t know if it was better writing, a better tone of the film, or what. But I actually liked and rooted for the character. The awkwardness that made me want to throttle the character in the older film became endearing. And they didn’t overdo it; there was enough genuine pathos, heroism, and cleverness to balance the goofy awkward enthusiastic weirdo vibe.
The movie kind of won me the moment Barry started griping about being the janitor of the Justice League (and both explained and showed why). I so very much related to that.
Other bright spots… Yes, Howard Hughes Batman was very hard to understand or accept. There was no attempt to explain it, it was like a writer said, “What if we did this with the character?” And then just made it happen. However, I actually liked Michael Keaton in the role. It somehow worked, despite his age and despite how poorly the “stiff rubber suit Batman” has held up over the years. His acting made it work for me.
I loved Sasha Calle as Supergirl. She was a no-nonsense badass who wasn’t playing games. It was such a refreshing take on the character for me. I’d like to see that again in another movie with a larger role.
Just my thoughts. I was very pleasantly surprised by the movie. I groaned when I found out it was being made, as again I hated the character’s previous portrayal, and thought, you can’t seriously be trying to build a movie around that hot garbage. But it was the best DC movie I’ve seen in a while. (Okay, very low bar, but still, I was expecting to hate it and instead I really liked it.) I did have to kind of shut off my brain and stop trying to poke holes in the logic of the movie (you could do that in a majority of scenes to be honest), and just enjoy it for what it was, so that was a big negative. But I don’t always need a movie to be great, sometimes it’s good enough for it to just be fun.
I watched this on a plane flight yesterday, with very low expectations. Like @Atamasama, I was pleasantly surprised. In fact, I thought the movie was pretty darn good, certainly comparable to many of the better Marvel MCU movies. The plot was a bit reminiscent of the first Dr. Strange movie, but it was still thoroughly enjoyable. I have to admit that I didn’t recognize the actor who played the second Bruce Wayne while in his Big Lebowski hermit look, and audibly gasped when I realized it was Michael Keaton.
I thought Bruce Wayne’s explanation of timelines using strands of spaghetti was very clever, as were all of the Easter eggs at the movie’s end with the various incarnations of Superman—including not only Christopher Reeve but George Reeves too…not to mention an in-joke I was previously unaware of with Nicolas Cage. And a version of The Flash with Golden Age Mercury helmet. It was also really neat calling back to General Zod’s invasion in Man of Steel (which is probably the only other recent DC movie I have enjoyed). And the closing scene with Barry’s mother was pitch-perfect.
All in all, I was expecting a mediocre DC superhero movie starring The Flash with a few cameos and the same old origin story. Instead it upended all of my expectations in a positive way. It certainly wasn’t perfect, but it was pretty good.