True dat. Simply explaining the use of air quotes.
This is certainly an interesting result. The foolishly optimistic part of me wants to believe this would all but end the usage of the terribly unreliable exit polls by the media, but that will never happen. Have to fill air time.
Bad day for me though. I don’t like Clinton or McCain. Clinton will also likely take the uncontested Michigan delegates unless some Brewster millionaire decides to run a “Vone Undeclared” campaign.
I didn’t realize until I read The Guardian article that the final results in Iowa had Clinton coming in third after Obama and Edwards. That makes her win in NH even more amazing.
And seeing McCain spin around back to the top had me shaking my head too. American politics can be so crazy.
And so can some of the voters. I saw the footage of Hillary’s “moment of emotion.” There were no tears. Not even a whimper. You must be auditioning for a job at Fox News.
And according to her husband, it depends on what your meaning of the word “is” is. 
I was not really too surprised that Hillary won NH, despite what the polling numbers had predicted. What surprised me was how poorly Edwards faired in comparison.
“What we see depends mainly on what we look for.” John Lubbock
As much as I hate to say it- so maybe polling is sometimes wrong, and Bush really did win Ohio?
I also wonder how much Obama winning Iowa mobilized those who really really don’t want him President to vote in NH?
I like what Dowd said in her Times opinion today.
Hillary was crying because the country was failing to realize how much we need her.
When I viewed the ‘breakdown’ I knew there was somthing bugging me other than the fact that it wasn’t a breakdown. Dowd nailed it perfectly.
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There are a lot of undecideds. It’s not surprising that the polling is inaccurate. I’ve seen interviews with people undecided between Obama and McCain, so this cuts across party lines, too.
I was going to take this observation and go a different way with it. New Hampshire has open primaries…independents are free to show up and vote in either party’s contest. Isn’t it possible that the polls that showed Obama with a double-digit lead were of likely Democratic and independent voters, and that when push came to shove, a lot of those independents who favored Obama over Hillary simply didn’t vote at all in the Democratic primary, opting instead to select McCain from among the Republicans?
Thus, the polls weren’t wrong; they just weren’t limited to the universe of actual Democratic primary voters.
Seems like the simplest explanation to me.
You’ve got that right. You insult New York or a state like that and it’s all “Whatever. You WISH you were me”. But New Hampshire will kill you, and then wear your skin as a coat. You know there was once a fifty-first state. Then it made New Hampshire mad.
Jimmy Hoffa used to talk shit about New Hampshire.
What do you expect from a state with the motto “Live free or die”?
What tears? Jon Stewart nailed this–and added the footage of all the male pols over time (I’m sure he missed a few) crying into mikes. I especially liked Dole overcome by thanking God for Nixon–now that’s some messed up shit.
The brouhaha over “tears” is just thinly, not even veiled sexism. Get over it.
And we are far, far from done. (I am also sitting here wondering just what McCain did to win NH. I thought his campaign was moribund).
I am happy with either Obama or Clinton, so it’s all good for me. I like Edwards, but can’t see him getting much done in DC.
Not really. In the raw tally he just beat her in Iowa, but she picked up more delegates.
Even Chuck Norris doesn’t diss New Hampshire.
But what did she win? This isn’t an electoral vote system, where she wins all the state’s electors. She got a few more votes but not so much that it makes any difference in terms of how many delegates she gets at the national convention.
There’s a perceptual victory in that headlines now say “Clinton won” and so her candidacy doesn’t get torpedoed the way it would have had she lost, but the fact is that the Democratic nomination race is essentially tied as of today, and there’s a long slog ahead to see whether they’ll be nominating Obama or Clinton.
Yeah, is it a motto…or is it a threat?
Hillary’s tears are a stage act, and one that is not uncommon to those bearing the surname of Clinton.
She’s a politician, and as far as that goes she’s even more shrewd and conniving than her husband. I note she’s dropped the “Rodham” from her name quietly sometime before her bid for Senate. She denied four years ago that it was a stepping stone to a bid for the Oval Office, but even then that seemed like bullshit.
The whole biting-back-tears moment, of course, happened with the cameras rolling and a very careful ‘I feel your pain’ speech in which Hillary plays to the feminist ideals of opportunity for women to get ahead - after how many years of climbing the ladder merely by propelling her husband forward while she hung on for the ride?
She didn’t work her way up this ladder, she worked his way up it. And whether she’s using a Yankee or a Dixie accent, she’s full of shit.
It’s just another Clinton who feels our pain. Right. It’s another politician who claims to be all about the working American, but couldn’t tell you what a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread cost if you put a gun to their head.
More than 8 points for Ron Paul.
Exactly, what tears? I saw the clip on A Daily Show last night and all I noticed was a slight quaver in her voice. I saw no tears. Is that what counts for crying these days?
The speech was Hillarys finest moment. She showed a bit of humanity and articulated her main reasons for running. That she is fighting against the changes in America in the Bush admin brought and they are fundamental. She showed she thinks the fight is honorable and important. I like it.
I am still for Edwards. But, if Hillary wants some residual good feelings from her husbands admin, shouldn’t she share the stench of NAFTA ,Enron and the rise of slash and burn capitalism?