I usually hit “quote” then paste what I get into notepad and compose my post there. I then repeat as necessary. However, there is a multi-quote button. If you hit it, it should remember what posts you used it on, then when you hit the “Reply to Thread” button, it should show up all the quotes you hit the multi-quote button on.
i imagine no one likes a vote on them unless you’re Pizza. 
i have explained my reasoning earlier but i will do a re-read to see if my vote for you will stay or not.
Okay since quintuple posting is the preferred option. 
I’ll break it up a bit more.
I think the *one *time I was on a scum team with Normal Phase (under a different name) I distanced myself from her quite a bit.
However, since she was a recruiter and a powerful murdering role, when she was nearly lynched one day I **reversed **my position and said I had scanned her as innocent with a single-use item (since I had “suspected” her). I simply said “trust me, she’s clean”. She was spared from the lynch. Later I elaborated on why.
When she was promptly murdered by the opposing team, I suggested that she came up clean because she was a Godfather. I went on to be one of two living people remaining after all the dust had settled (was a 50 person game iirc).
If I were scum with Normal Phase I would avoid commenting on her often, but wouldn’t avoid commenting on her at all as that indicates discomfort. I would make every effort to leave no connection between myself and Normal Phase by not placing one-off votes on her (these do not seem genuine and often indicate distancing tactics). If I were to vote for her it would be early, not late, as late indicates bussing and PIS.
If I vote her early I will not budge even if she is going to be lynched, unless I find a way I can reasonably explain that someone else looks worse. I may wait for someone else to make such a case, but I’ve established a moving-vote style and therefore I would also be confident in a move away from her earlier in the round if I feel I can get away with it. I won’t budge to save her late in the round.
Different circumstances in that game because she was a recruiter, I risked a lot by banking my townie-aura on her being not scum and then she died anyway, proving me a liar or inept. I was able to explain away the results as not my fault due to the circumstances, but that’s a highly unusual scenario.
Normally I would not risk as much on sparing her. Should she be investigated that would lead to me being investigated, and if a vigilante or rival scum team exists, her guilt could be proven and that leads directly to me. It’s generally a bad idea to toss much effort into sparing a teammate.
As for differently than I’m treating her now- not sure. So far I have not pushed her into the spotlight or agreed or disagreed with her very heavily. I also haven’t completely ignored her. The only difference in my play would be how I’d be more cautious with my life most likely. I think it would fairly well match the current situation simply due to lack of time to generate much deviation from standard.
The votes, no. In fact I’ve argued that there will be town on my wagon, as it’s pretty much proven that it cannot be just scum.
The point is in the content of the discussion, the reasoning for voting me, the reasoning for not voting me, the reactions in general.
And not so much those reactions, but if they appear to be genuine or not. It’s designed to give situations where people who are lying may slip up by not sounding honest.
You’ll learn nothing from the situation if you don’t bother to look, and that’s the attitude you’ve taken. You’ve already written it off as a waste of time, therefore it will be. That’s on you, I’m afraid. Nothing I can do about that.
Maybe I’ll vote for you if I survive because I think your style is therefore sloppy and less diligent?
Or perhaps I should just hunt for scum, as that’s more effective.
i think a lot of us will say that you rile things up whatever role you have. 
when you’re scum Bill calls it squirming.
OOG Bill thinks I’m always squirming
the multi-quote button is my idea of manual. i was wondering if there was something that allows me to put all the posts with a click or two.
You know, I’ve already responded to this, but re-reading it made me pick up on something a bit off that I’d like to pick on.
This preamble sets the stage with an everyman viewpoint (I dislike his approach = a common viewpoint), and caps with a conclusion that I am town, to seem fair-minded.
That seems carefully crafted to get people to pay attention to what comes next. Oh it’s quite reasonable, tell us more:
Hypocritical play, maybe. If we’re not thinking about it too hard.
Bragging (I would like to compare real bragging with talking about one’s experiences… the latter can be twisted to look like the former by painting it with a negative brush) is a BAD reason to lynch someone.
If someone is a braggart they will be so even when they’re a townie. You KNOW that’s not a tell at all.
The fact that you would include that as a reason to vote someone tells me that you’re more interested in making this a popularity contest than finding scum. You’re already subtly appealing to popularity with your preamble, and now your justification is I rub people the wrong way?
That’s horrendous play.
I dunno, can you trust me? You seemed fairly confident I was townie just a moment ago.
You think people are incapable of forming a clear opinion on someone because they’re a tempting target?
I don’t trust the motivation behind your argument. I also don’t like how it avoids responsibility for the results. That is classically scummy behavior.
You will (rightly) assume others feel the same way. Your argument here provides the subtle motivation here for anyone else persuaded by your arguments to stop thinking and allow a bad lynch to happen.
That’s devious.
That’s ludicrous. You’ve already stated how bad you think it is.
Here, you make the point of your argument, which is that I should die no matter what I am, and you’ve argued from popularity in order to make that point, and you’re encouraging people not to think.
FOS: Suburban Plankton.
You’re not just sloppy, you’re malevolent here.
If you wind up scum, pay heed to this part especially.
It sounds as though he may have a partner who could look mighty suspect when I die.
None of this sits well with me. I’ve got about a 3/10 scum reading from this post, which is approaching the level I feel toward septimus for his earlier reactions.
Askthepizzaguy,
You obviously don’t care for my playstyle; I can’t fault you for that. And while I disagree with much of what you have to say in your last post, I’m not going to address most of it, because we’d just end up in a battle of “You suck!..Nuh-uh, *you *suck!!”, which won’t help anyone. But there are a couple items that need further explanation.
1.) How exactly does it sound like I have a partner, and who would that be?
2.) So you think it’s 30% likely that I’m Scum, which apparently is enough to earn a FOS from you, and this “approaches the level” of suspicion you have for Septimus. So exactly how scummy do you feel he is? 35%? 40%? since you place two irrevocable votes on him quite early in the Day, I rather thought you might be at least better than 50% certain of his guilt.
She was actually pretty calm responding to my pressure from last game.
I’m trying to get a feel for your genuineness. Coaching is something I’ve seen scum throw out as a hypothesis several times, so I’m dubious of it coming up at all. I’d like to know as best I can where you’re coming from.
As regards your other question, though, I think I’ll keep my scum tells to myself, thankyouverymuch. I’m not sure it’s a question I could answer truthfully in any case, even if I tried.
@ ATPG – you’re forgetting the Heaven or Hell game. I didn’t do a damn thing in that one, of course, just sat there like a lump and let the townies get herded by you and Takhisis.
Since this is the second time you tossed out a little comment about this - in response tothis post of mine, I believe - it seems like you have a problem with it. Yet you’re being coy, for some reason. Feel free to elucidate.
No, I’d rather not address your points. That wouldn’t help anyone. :rolleyes:
You’re encouraging people not to examine the folks on my wagon.
Any on that wagon will do, for now. But primarily what strikes me as bad is that you’re **discouraging analysis **that will be quite relevant when I flip town.
“approaches the level” in quotation marks?
Do I detect the stinky whiff of roll eyes? :rolleyes: <-----Roll eyes is scummy, except when I do it. Hypocrisy! I love it!
First, you’re telling me up front you’re not going to respond to my points, then you’re treating my arguments with the **distancing-through-quotation **treatment, and not only that, you’re doing it on a fairly odd snippet of text.
On the last point, as I have stated that I’m fairly certain septimus needs pressure, the point of my votes on him was pressure. Unfortunately no one followed me for quite some time, and he’s not responded yet, and he’s not under that much pressure given the Pizza and Janwagons.
I’d give septimus about a 4/10 for the case he manufactured on me day one, and I’d leave it at that level given his lack of participation in discussion. He’s an excellent lynch in my mind.
You, sir, are only digging yourself deeper with your avoidance of my salient points.
True, but you were a late replacement player and you didn’t say much, do much, or ever really experience pressure. I had forgotten because it was such a bad example of how we would play together.
I think the most I told you to do in that game was hush when the discussion stagnated so you wouldn’t stick out.
“approaches the level” in quotation marks in order to indicate that I was quoting you; that is; using the same phrase you had previously used.
When I want to express some vague unspoken suspicion, I generally use ‘scary trailing ellipses’…
(snip description of my screw-up on Septimus – I conflated a sarcastic remark by Septimus in reference to ATPG’s day one vote on him with Septimus’ reasons for voting ATPG himself)
I’m clearly relying too much on the muddled recollections of ATPG, not to mention my own. Let me put all three posts together and see if it still holds.
525:
Paraphrasing the analysis-of-ATPG part: No one is pinging me hard but you, but some of your behavior doesn’t look like scum. You could be WIFOM-ing it, but would you? I don’t know whether to vote you again.
528 ATPG reacts to the defense part (first paragraph) with
I would never do a second vote on something like this, but I see it.
Then Septimus’ vote in 572:
I still find this scummy in its proper context, though not quite as strongly as previously. The didn’t even read it stuff is pure null tell; I can see it irritating someone, but not tipping the balance between a wobbly uncertainty as described in post 525 and an actual vote. The quoting thing is just irrelevant, regardless who has it right – what does it matter if Pizza quoted you before or just commented on you without quoting?
The rest is what might reasonably prompt a vote or not. “Wants other to think his case is more than it is” – I’d guess not, but I could see a votee coming to that conclusion. Null tell. The scummy bit is this:
“Maybe he’s “just being anti-Town” but we can’t give that a completely free ride. (Otherwise, Scum could get credibility by acting anti-Town! )”
As the conclusion of an argument that winds up placing a vote on someone, this is terrible. It’s what scum do – after making a shallow argument against someone, try to bolster it with “well, even if they’re town, it’s still a good lynch”. I don’t think so. Especially an OMGUS needs to be stronger than this, but this is just words – even as you’re voting him you’re hedging your bets.
Conclusion: I was an idiot to assume everything was referenced properly, but the vote stays.
This is bad too. Some of you guys have to be townies, but however anti-town you think he might be, you can’t step over the line to advocating lynching on a “this guy ain’t helping” basis. You want “free pass for scum”? That’s it. There’s probably five or six townies a game you could get on that basis, if you set your mind to it.
Are you voting ATPG? I don’t think I have much chance of catching up properly and still doing the review I wanted on SF, so I’ll just ask.
I am not currently voting ATPG.
NETA: That last quote in post 715 was Suburban Plankton, not Septimus.
I’m trying! I’m still on day one. I keep getting distracted by all the yummy conversation all over the place on day two.
To put it simply, you’re poking at him but not really going anywhere with it, and it looks like you’re trying to stir the pot without falling in it yourself.
So, in your opinion, I should have voted for ATPG based on what I stated in that post?
Also, was it just that one comment you were talking about, or are there more? (You seemed to be making a more general comment about my posting).
You are now doing the classic pick-and-choose defense.
You’re ignoring the reasons I now find you scummy, but responding to other, easier-to-answer points.
You want to know a style I think is bad? Suggesting that other people are bad for the town, then deliberately avoiding direct accusations and reasoning, by choosing to ignore criticism, while essentially advocating that no one bothers looking for clues when someone turns up innocent on death.
Your reasoning for their being bad includes perceived bragging, btw. Using your own logic we should lynch you for being uncooperative and advocating a strategy of ignorance for the town at large. Don’t think, just let it happen, and don’t examine why it happened later.
If you disagree, I’ll *also *get to accuse you of… hypocrisy
After all, your demonstrably bad argument is at least as bad as whatever you think I’ve done. Therefore, you must think town would be better off without you.
Overkill if I continue. You’ve shattered any illusion of reasonable pro-town expectation I may have had from you now.