De'endee Mafia

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Hi, Peeker, my once and future fellow Mason! :cool:

We wondered where you’d been. Given your user name, we thought you might be busy around the time of [del]IRS Lynch deadline[/del] the Ides of April, but months have gone by … I guess you had a lot of Late Filing to do. :wink:

Very glad to hear from you.

peeker!!!

It’s great to see you again…we were rather concerned when you ‘disappeared’. Hope things are going well for you.

Nitpicketh: The Ides of April doth fall on the 13theth. Sorry, but 5 years of Latin training dost nae dithappear lightethly.

Touché. But anyway, I know from personal experience that IRS Deadline is a Movable Feast. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, what’s with the Mafia game? I guess we’re waiting for someone to say something stupid. Given my track record, it’ll probably be me … :eek:

PEEKER!

You bastard, I was worried about you. Glad to see you back.

Septimus, my vote’s going cheap until Tuesday and I have some time – you can have it until then if you REALLY want it, though. Just let me know. :slight_smile:

Ah I love the smell of Day one.

I never have any idea what to do with it, but it smells good, nonetheless.

Just poking my head up to greet all the townies.

I must say, considering the grim deaths of a few of our neighbors, I’m a little surprised by the laughing and smiling at the Mayor’s plaintive plea for aid. Perhaps the thrill of the hunt has made us all jaded?

Bah!!

Smells like death! You like the smell of death?

and Bah!!

On behalf of my fellow Townies, I greet you Scum.

Thou phraseth such as if you shurn’t one of us. Dost thee imply a lack of purity?

Vote choie

Cor blimey! Is this the fair village of De’endee or that foul hotbed of paranoia, Salem?

I did say the lamented victims were our neighbors, after all.

(BTW does anyone wonder if the age of the first victim was relevant? The teacher mentioned in the OP was awfully young.)

c’mon folks i know i am not playing but there is only one clear choice.

ccolor=blue]vote story[/color].

jeebuz what the hell happened around here the last couple of months?

FOS at choie for same reason stated as pedescribe, and not after I saw pedescribe’s post.

It’s just a FOS, so go easy on the bandwagony allegations, peeps…

I would also be willing to lynch septimus today, for drawing attention to himself but-not-really. Seems like playing at nervousness to disguise true feelings.

I was just wondering, if I hit the now **Blue Skeezix **with my silver arrow, would he then become Yellow Skeezix?

I would love to know what you mean by a level cap.

wouldn’t he come more like Metallic Blue Skeezix? :smiley:

i’ve played with him a couple of times. to be fair, he’s always like that. he was town in both games and he did make me :smack: a couple of times.

it means that’s the maximum level you can get no matter how much experience you get.

I’m concerned about the multi-voting. I played in Pleo’s Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible. In that game, you had to place four votes for any of your votes to count. It was, IMHO, a very anti-town mechanism simply because it pretty much forced Town to vote for Town, while giving Scum all the cover they needed for their Town votes.

This is different of course. We only have to vote twice, which is a big improvement. But I think we should accept now that, unless we suddenly become brilliant, we’re pretty much guaranteed to see a lot of Town on Town votes. After all, your first vote is for the person you find most suspicious. So your second is by definition for someone you find *less *suspicious. If we were so good at finding scum that our second-best guesses were good, we’d long since have given up Mafia as banal.

So this is the problem with multi-vote: It encourages Town on Town voting. Another way of saying that is: it creates a good excuse for Town on Town voting. One way to deal with this has been suggested: we just double-vote for the same person. It’s tempting in it’s simplicity, but it does mean we lose the advantage of multi-voting which is that people are forced to engage in making cases more.

Another suggestion which has been put forward (by Normal and pedescribe) is that the second vote should be thrown at the lynch-leader. This is to take advantage of the XP gain from lynching scum. Obviously, if only power-roles did this they would expose themselves somewhat, so (as pointed out) vanillas will have to do this too. This all makes sense in theory, but I have two problems with it. Firstly, we’ll need a very hard and fast rule about when to start putting second votes on the lynch leader. It would certainly need to be after any claim, for example. Does that mean we need a deadline for claiming? It seems to me that a strategy that forces claims runs a big risk of outing several roles a day. (E.g. with 24 hours to go, the current leader claims Cop. People either believe or don’t want to take the risk, so votes start shifting. With 10 hours to go we have a new clear leader, who claims Mason. More vote shifting gives us a new leader with 5 hours to go, but by then some people are AFK. New guy claims or not, but with time short we can’t co-ordinate. Unless everyone not already voting is going to put a second vote on the leader, power-roles will have to choose between exposing their incentive to do so, and playing safe. Thus negating the point of the strategy.)

Secondly, it makes things easy for Scum. They can vote for a town lynch-leader and say they were just following the strategy; meantime they can leave a second, innoccuous vote on a scumbuddy and point to it later as proof of good intentions. Similarly, it gives them easy options when a Scum is lynch-leader. Normally they have to choose between a late bus which may or may not look convincing or throwing a vote away. This plan lets them do both.

The only way I can see to do it is to declare that Days are in fact 24 hours shorter than officially announced, and that the last 24 hours are a Twilight when the only thing that will happen is we all place our second vote on the lynch leader. No matter what claims are made at 24 hours and 5 mins. Then, for the purposes of analysis, we disregard all those second votes.

I’m *very *sceptical about our collective ability to commit to such a plan. If we can’t, I suggest we all just place our votes on the people we find most suspicous, and see where that gets us. And if that means voting for the same person twice because no one else looks suspicious enough for a vote, so be it. Because for all the finessing of power-roles etc. Mafia is still a game about finding scum and if we focus on that, we’ll be fine.

So that said, I’m going to

vote pedescribe

“Slips” like saying “all townies” instead of “all my fellow townies” are just not a reliable scum-tell. Every game seems to have half a dozen of these a-ha! moments that turn out to be nothing other than poor phrasing. What is more reliable is that scum love jumping on them, because it saves them having to make a real case.

Half a dozen per game? Shouldn’t be too much of a task to link to some examples, then?