Little can be read into these comments either way in any reliable fashion. Even if, for example, Inner flip-flops on the well-intentioned idea of not voting twice, that’s what townies will do. I’ve done it.
1)** Inner Stickler** is among the first to mention the paranoid doc idea, if not the first. I think he’s the first. Have to check. This is why I figured, like Red Skeezix, Inner Stickler could have been breadcrumbing.
I have been waiting for the other shoe to drop all game long, and Stickler hasn’t been attacked, and no one has claimed even when prompted to do so.
And, wouldn’t a scum roleblocker claim paranoid doc, just to be able to have something important to claim later? As such, if Inner claims paranoid doc tomorrow, I’m not going to believe it. I’ll think scum roleblocker instead.
Why this is interesting is because this is the only reason given for why it’s a bad idea. And, if Inner were such a doctor, this sort of post should scream at the scumbags “murder me”, and as such, it’s unwise to post it.
- “I disagree with skeezix’s case on shadowfacts on principle, in that I agree with Shadowfacts wholeheartedly.”
This isn’t a great way of finding someone innocent or guilty IMO. Agreeing on a policy is not hard for the scums to fake. It’s poor reasoning IMO, as such, I think it could be an example of fake reasoning not to follow Skeezix regarding ShadowFacts.
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Sorry… just doing my job here… uh moving on to the next post.
And repeats it. I was almost sure that Stickler was saying this because Stickler knows the doc, and in a no PM reveal game, that means it would be Stickler.
But it doesn’t add up. You don’t want to breadcrumb this kind of information. Unlike the vigilante, breadcrumbing a doctor/blocker action IS scummy. It’s not something that follows from the role. A vigilante has to explain himself, a doctor doesn’t, even a paranoid one.
Slight scum read on behavior.
Indicates prepping a claim later of being a paranoid doc, when Inner is just a scum roleblocker. Not being careful as a doc, indicates not a doc.
Acutely aware of the tally and when the phase ends. Scums would be, some townies might be.
If Scum:
This post suggests that septimus was screwed, and the plan was, bus and distance from septimus. that is consistent with what happened.
If Townie:
Correct reasoning.
It’s hard to tell which is the case.
If Scum:
Easy points for distancing Stickler from Suburban, even though they end up voting the same way.
If Townie:
Thanks for the agreement. Would you follow-up and lynch Suburban?
Hard to tell which is the case.
If Scum:
Major, easy distancing points.
If Townie:
Good, correct points.
Hard to tell which is the case.
If Scum:
Major, easy distancing points.
If Townie:
Good, correct points.
Hard to tell which is the case.
Sensing a pattern? If the plan is bus septimus, then going directly at his throat hardcore is not all that difficult to fake. You know he’s guilty, so what could you be afraid of? Being murdered?
Pizza says nah-uh. This could go either way.
Town vig?
Inner mentions the vig who at that point was nonexistent.
As I mentioned before when I did the analysis that lead directly to septimus, one of the points against Inner Stickler was the early mentions of vigilantes. Scum would be aware of the vigilante since they had powers dedicated to refuting him.
Possible perfect information syndrome. Needs a re-read to determine if Inner was the first or among the first to suggest the vig exists.
The plan of course was to bus septimus. Therefore there’s no townie indicators here. Again not sure on ShadowFacts. If Shadow is also scum, that puts major scum points on Inner Stickler.
Well he was going to do so, obviously. Asking him like it is a threat if he doesn’t sort of has a whiff of acting.
All consistent with any plan to bus and distance from septimus.
No firm conclusion either way.
So, if there’s a roleblocker preventing the detective from taking action, you’d agree with their actions, block instead of kill? Interesting.
This is great stuff, and is so true it has a very strong whiff of townie to it.
That said, does it remain the case that Stickler feels this way when septimus has a chance at living?
That’s the real test, isn’t it?
Test fail.
Scum don’t have a janitor, but townies need a coroner to get results. Okay… nice theory. A bit too nice, really.
Basically, wasn’t interested in killing septimus until it was time to bus him,
Then, went after septimus hardcore,
Then, instead of doubling vote on septimus, Stickler avoids ShadowFacts’ death and locks in on texCat, and again defends ShadowFacts.
Basically, Inner being townie depends on ShadowFacts being townie.
If Shadow is townie, I can buy some of this. If he’s not, Inner must die.
Inner has always been interested in the voting and experience point discussions, indicating power role. And so my theory was, he was a power role.
But I see him as either a paranoid doctor… and I’d be skeptical… or he’s the scum roleblocker himself.
Inner knows the rules quite well.
Okay.
Inner has spent some time thinking about this.
I don’t, I was just laying a theory out there to see if I got any nibbles.
I think Inner Stickler, if scum, is the designated “advocate everything that is good for the town” guy.
I would do whatever Stickler has said, for the most part… ShadowFacts being an exception. That said, Stickler is leaning guilty to me.
Godfather role.
Perfect Information.
Why assume a godfather role is in the game?
Okay so we finally do bus him, after it is clear he is going to die and flip scum. Good.
Thanks for your support.
You’re leaning town on Skeezix now, great… what about ShadowFacts? Still innocent?
Very consistent. It matches the entire rest of Inner’s play pattern. If he has a scum role, he is definitely playing the distancing, bussing, devil’s advocate game, almost flawlessly.
The flaws I see are false breadcrumbing, and several instances of PIS.
Certainly you weren’t surprised by the result though? You were sure he was guilty.
I didn’t see what this was in reference to so I’ll skip it.
Inner is saying everything I’d expect him to say as town, and yet, he’s also saying a lot more I am having trouble writing off as innocent.
Either he’s really on his game or he’s scum.
Everything he says “sounds townie”. It’s so very even and consistent.
Again Inner leaps into the experience point discussion and number of scumbags.
I just don’t get NPC townie from Stickler, and yet, I also wouldn’t buy PC townie claim from Stickler at the moment either.
Hmmph.
Anyway. Inner Stickler is awesome. If he’s townie, he’s one of the best that we have. If he’s scum, he’s playing an excellent game with only a couple minor errors.
But the PIS with the godfather thing, and some other examples, and the paranoid doctor thing, all smell like a set-up where Stickler claims paranoid doc later on in the game. And it keeps him alive one more round… maybe two. And he gets to block Lightfoot all this time. As long as she’s blocked, she’s no threat.
I don’t believe he’s an NPC, he’s too interested in the game mechanics and the leveling up. I don’t believe he’s a PC, because the doc or the coroner are the only ones left that should be major, and I’m not smelling doc from Inner Stickler. He’d be much more careful about wagoning and breadcrumbing clues about the doctor. Real doctors would be more concerned with not making any clues or waves and protecting the detective.
That leaves scum. That explains why he wasn’t for septimus until septimus acted obviously scum, and then Inner Stickler went for his throat as hard as he could… until ShadowFacts was also on the block. So he didn’t double down on septimus or Shadow, he went for TexCat.
Then, it was too much and he finally joined the wagon on septimus, again, after someone else made the big push for it to happen. Otherwise, Inner wasn’t going to make that move.
Inner is making every move possible to look as townie as possible, but little flaws reveal that he knows more about the game than he should, especially with regards to Red Skeezix the vigilante, septimus the godfather, and paranoid doctors who shouldn’t be breadcrumbing, and experience, leveling, and number of scums.
Sorry, Inner Stickler. [7/10]
It’s possible to look *too *townie. Why it’s bad is because the townie-ness about you disappears when suspects septimus or ShadowFacts have any chance at living through a round, and I’m afraid townies make more mistakes than you’re making. Your play is too perfect.
Do you have a solid defense? Convince me.
Pun intended.