The difference is that I find that less telling about skeezix and more telling about Shadowfacts.
[QUOTE=Astral Rejection]
Your mind hammers against the restrictive silence enveloping you. Your teeth clench uncontrollably as you force your mental abilities to their limits. Yet, try as you might, you can’t pierce it. Exhausted, you collapse into your bed, ready to try again tomorrow.
(You were blocked)
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Damn
Yeah sure. I assume Shadow blocked Red again but again I still find it hard to believe the Vig was blocked and through some separate mechanism the Scum kill failed.
I must say, I didn’t expect this.
Let’s assume for the moment that Red Skeezix is, in fact, Scum, and **ShadowFacts **isn’t. Then the Scum might have suspected that **Shadow **would block Red last Night, and therefore used someone else to make their kill, wouldn’t you think?
Or is that just what they’d expects us to expect them to do?
WIFOM of course. Sometimes Scum lose that battle of wits. I would also guess one of them is blocking LightFoot (I’m less convinced there is a paranoid Doc). Presumably there is a third Scum doing something else more important (leveling up somehow?).
Well, I did not in fact, block Red Skeezix last night. I blocked PizzaGuy.
My reasoning:
- Given my campaign against Skeezix, he was the obvious choice for me to block, so I guessed scum would go elsewhere for the killer.
- **Normal **also would be an obvious choice for me, so I avoided that again.
- I didn’t have another super-likely scum on my list.
- I didn’t want to accidentally hit a Town power role.
- **PizzaGuy **claimed Vanilla, so if he’s Town, I wouldn’t screw something up. If he’s scum, lucky me.
All that said, I have NOT received a message like I did yesterDay from Astral, saying that I used the spell and blocked someone. So, unless **Astral is just running late or something, I don’t think I am the cause of the No-Kill.
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Vote Red Skeezix
Seriously?
I mean, I know you like to float scenarios and all that, but Scum Doctor? You really think that’s more likely than **septimus **and **Skeezix **just lying?
Come ON.
How many games have you played that included a Scum Doc?
I’ll wait for **Red **to post and tell us how his Night went before I vote, but I’d really like to know how his kill failed last Night.
Capo di Tutti Capo III included 5 scum doctors. They were called Lucas. Capo II included the same, so did Capo I, but I wasn’t in those.
Anyway.
I’d like to know who Red Skeezix attacked last night before we run up a huge wagon on him.
Secondly,
Vote: Suburban Plankton
Vote: ShadowFacts
Yes, SERIOUSLY.
And I’m prepared to keep giving Skeezix the benefit of the doubt, because no townies died, and we got a scum. That’s 1 dead scumbags and zero dead townies in 2 nights and 1 day.
And I want to see 1 dead scumbag today on top of that. And I’m interested to see where y’all place your votes today, because if they’re not on the scumbag and the scumbag gets lynched…
I am vanilla, though I played at not being so a little bit last night in case it would get somebody to attack me. I did suggest you block me as I am sure you figure I am scum with Red Skeezix. So what did Red Skeezix do, then? He can kill, obviously.
Scum doctor is my guess. Red hit a protected scum bag.
If it was so obvious, you’d think he would have been successful at least once!
It’s obvious because he targeted ShadowFacts according to both of them.
But yeah, since the guy he targeted last time or so he said turned out to be a SCUMBAG, let’s see what he says this time.
1.) He says he targeted nobody. I’d lynch him, then, because that’s bull skeezix.
2.) He says he targeted someone. If said person was protected by a townie doctor, then the townie doctor can reveal and say so. If said person was NOT protected by the townie doctor, then one of two things is the case-
(A) Person Skeezix targeted was mafia scum, protected by a scum doctor
(B) Skeezix is lying. Lynch Skeezix.
So, you might lynch whoever Skeezix says he attacked, and if said person comes up townie AND no doctor claims to have protected him, you lynch Skeezix.
That’s 1 scumbag, 1 townie, 1 scumbag. That’s a **very **good trade.
What’s the downside? Either Skeezix or the person he targeted was scum. And you’ll find out today. 
I’m guessing that would be me you scanned, then. Sort of makes sense given your stance toward me all game long. I’m sort of baffled I’m still alive.
Did someone protect me last night? I didn’t get any private messages at all; either to indicate I was blocked, attacked, or defended.
This post indicates that the paranoid doctor is unlikely. It is more likely that the scums are blocking Lightfoot.
That indicates to me, they’re blocking her instead of killing her, because they can’t or won’t kill her. That indicates to me that there’s either a real doctor protecting Lightfoot out there, or, the scums have been too pressed to focus on killing Lightfoot. Or, they’ve chosen a path of trying to claim paranoid doctor later on, and using this scum roleblocker on Lightfoot to gain credibility.
Well, the test is simple.
**Lightfoot’s REAL doctor MUST continue to protect Lightfoot. **
I will not accept a claim of true doctor at this point if Lightfoot dies.
**If there is a Paranoid Doctor, the Paranoid Doctor MUST stop blocking Lightfoot, so Lightfoot can continue to scan. **
I will not accept a claim of paranoid doctor at this point if Lightfoot cannot scan tonight.
Who can we rule out as the one blocking Lightfoot?
**Red Skeezix **(busy attacking ShadowFacts), **ShadowFacts **(busy blocking Red Skeezix), **Askthepizzaguy **(Blocked by ShadowFacts), and **Lightfoot **(Silly).
Who do I suspect is blocking Lightfoot?
Suburban Plankton (general scumminess, lack of claim), **Inner Stickler **(what appears to be prepping a paranoid doc claim, perfect dual play), or **choie **(stance toward Lightfoot, ATPG, and Normal Phase).
I don’t see how this gets Skeezix the benefit of any doubt:
Night Three: No Town (or any other) death. Skeezix was blocked.
Day Four: We lynch septimus. Skeezix had very little to do with this.
Night Four: No deaths - while Skeezix was under pressure to kill.
I’m prepared to wait for Skeezix to explain how he’s failed to kill for the fourth Night running, but there’s no part of that that makes me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. The fact that when he fails to kill, Town don’t die strikes me as damning rather than exculpatory.
More thoughts, I’m trying to better place my nomination for death this round.
[spoiler]What do we think we know about the Lords of Slaughter team?
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They had a **Godfather **role. This role is typically immune to either scans, vigilantes, or other kinds of roles, and is the hardest to take down via night action. You just have to guess correctly with the lynch. This was septimus.
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Their Godfather was immune to vigilantes (except a level 5 assassin, I’ll buy that much), OR, they had a Scum Doctor (someone who is actively protecting the scum team against assassination), OR, Red Skeezix is guilty and part of their team, lying about his role. One of those three things MUST be the case. Anyone disagree, and why? This is **not ShadowFacts because I think if ShadowFacts was scum he was busy stealing the powers of special ed on N2, or if ShadowFacts is town that’s also not the case. This is not Red Skeezix or Askthepizzaguy **due to being blocked.
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They have a Scum roleblocker. I believe this is the case. Otherwise, the Paranoid townie doctor MUST CLAIM IMMEDIATELY and stop blocking Lightfoot. This explains why Lightfoot cannot scan. Otherwise, Lightfoot is scum, and I doubt that is the case. This is probably not ShadowFacts because ShadowFacts has demonstrated that he is either the universal backup townie role, or a power-stealing scum role, and as such, I doubt he would ALSO be a true roleblocker. Also, ShadowFacts was busy blocking Red Skeezix when Lightfoot was being blocked. Also, it** cannot be Askthepizzaguy or Red Skeezix** because we were blocked on alternate nights by ShadowFacts and I believe I was scanned, and Lightfoot was being blocked both nights ATPG and Skeezix were blocked.
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They have a murdering role. This is either Red Skeezix, or someone else on their team besides septimus, the Scum Doc, and the Scum blocker, because septimus is dead, the Scum Doc was busy protecting Scums, and the Scum Blocker was busy blocking Lightfoot. This role is not going to be ShadowFacts, most likely. It is not me, just take my word for it, I think I was scanned anyway and I invited being blocked on myself. This role could have been the Godfather, but I feel they’d also be able to murder even after septimus dies for obvious reasons. I actually tend to think anyone on their team can murder or use their other powers in a given night, simply because it makes sense that everyone can murder, but they only have 1 murder per night. If it is Red Skeezix, we will find out within 1 1/2 game-days, most likely.
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They may have a **wildcard ****role **which has special powers, such as stealing one of the pro-town roles from the town. Admittedly, other that the current murdering role, this is the only role that **ShadowFacts **could be if ShadowFacts is scum. I think. Why I continue to think that is because extra votes mean doom for the town if the scum get them, and Shadow won’t part with them, and septimus and other suspects didn’t want ShadowFacts to die so septimus could live. I think Red Skeezix should assassinate ShadowFacts ASAP, or we need to bite the bullet and lynch ShadowFacts this round. That said, because this is really the only role that ShadowFacts could be, and because he’s probably not the scum roleblocker or scum doctor, ShadowFacts would make a poor lynch at this time.
So, current suspects for being on the scum team would be Red Skeezix, ShadowFacts, and Lightfoot, because if some things turns out to not be the case, then the only alternative explanations are that Red, Shadow, or Lightfoot are scumbags respectively. As such, Red Skeezix, ShadowFacts, and Lightfoot will need to die before the endgame. On the plus side, if Red or Lightfoot are townies, then the scumbags really, really need to murder them soon. ShadowFacts, if town, could simply give up his voting power to whoever Lightfoot has scanned as townie. As such, Red Skeezix, Lightfoot, and Shadowfacts would all make a poor lynch at this time, and are better served as murder bait, assuming SF plays ball and renounces his extra voting power to Lightfoot’s scanee.
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**Godfather **= septimus
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Scum roleblocker = Inner Stickler(?)/Suburban Plankton(?)/choie(?)
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Scum doctor/Grunt = Inner Stickler(?)/Suburban Plankton(?)/choie(?)
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**Wildcard/Grunt **= ShadowFacts(?), Inner(?), Plankton(?), choie(?)
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Grunt/Other/None = Suburban Plankton(?), Red Skeezix(?)
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**Scum roleblocker **is very unlikely to be Lightfoot, because Lightfoot claiming detective is far too risky. Real detective could have scanned her.
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**Scum roleblocker ***Cannot *be Red Skeezix, because Red Skeezix was busy attacking ShadowFacts while Lightfoot was presumably being blocked.
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**Scum roleblocker ***Cannot *be Askthepizzaguy, because ATPG was either scanned by Lightfoot and/or blocked by ShadowFacts on N1 or N4, while Lightfoot was either able to scan, or being blocked.
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Scum roleblocker is *unlikely *to be ShadowFacts, because ShadowFacts has demonstrated at least one of the fallen special ed’s powers, and can easily demonstrate another one. ShadowFacts should demonstrate this power as soon as Lightfoot reveals who was scanned by Lightfoot. That person should gain additional votes this round. If ShadowFacts doesn’t do this, Red Skeezix MUST assassinate him.
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Scum doctor *Cannot *be Lightfoot, Red Skeezix, ShadowFacts, or Askthepizzaguy for the same reasoning as the previous example.
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Red Skeezix can only be the grunt of the Lords of Slaughter team, if he is that much. **ShadowFacts **can only be a grunt or a power-stealing role, if he is that much. I highly doubt that **Lightfoot **is a grunt, even if it would be the most likely role for Lightfoot to be if she is scum, because she’s gotta die. She can’t survive the whole game. Nor can Red Skeezix.
Based on behavior and votes, I highly doubt that Normal Phase is a Lord of Slaughter. She was pretty much always for septimus’ death. For the same reasoning, I think **Stanislaus **is probably innocent as well.
If **Red Skeezix **is scum with septimus, they really jammed a bone in their own throat with the events that transpired between Red and septimus. And it will become only too obvious in a very short time if Red is guilty. That’s 2/4 or 2/5 based on the major error moves involved.
If Red Skeezix is scum with ShadowFacts, that will also become obvious in a very short time, especially if ShadowFacts isn’t assassinated by Red Skeezix and they both continue to live.
As such, Red Skeezix is a bad lynch, even if he is a good suspect.
If ShadowFacts is scum with septimus, that would explain all the behavior of the three-way tie round, where none of my top suspects including septimus wanted to throw ShadowFacts under the bus. It would also indicate that ShadowFacts is the power-stealing role and sucked the soul out of special ed. That’s the only thing ShadowFacts can be if he’s scum, and as such, he’s already caught based on all the events of the three-way-tie round, being accused of being exactly what he is by myself, and if he continues to survive the entire game. Red Skeezix should assassinate him.
As such, ShadowFacts is a bad lynch even if he is a good suspect. However, if lynching him allows Red Skeezix to assassinate someone else, okay I’ll allow it. And if he does not give up his voting power, he needs to be lynched.
I don’t want to lynch these people today:
**Askthepizzaguy - You had your chance on D1 or D2… I should be cleared by now.
Normal Phase- Very townie behavior. Was against septimus the whole time.
Stanislaus- **Very townie behavior. Was against septimus the whole time.
Lightfoot **- **Strong claim, doesn’t fit very well as any Lord of Slaughter role.
[COLOR=DarkRed]Red Skeezix [/COLOR]- The most dangerous role in the game. Benefit of the doubt.
**ShadowFacts **- unless he refuses to give up vote power to Lightfoot scanee or Lightfoot. Benefit of the doubt.
[SIZE=2]The following people are not very high on my suspect list, due to lack of evidence or strong cases against them.
**MentalGuy **- [SIZE=1]Although Normal wants him dead very badly it would seem.
Weedy[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2]- [SIZE=1]Not out of the woods yet, but I very much like the question and answer thing we just did. Good responses.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]USCDiver[/SIZE][SIZE=2]- [SIZE=1]Votes for and against septimus were inverted from what I’d expect the scum team to do, didn’t fit the game plan.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]gnarlycharlie[/SIZE][SIZE=2]- [SIZE=1]Generally townie read, doesn’t flinch at all.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Hirka T’Bawa[/SIZE][SIZE=2] - [SIZE=1]Voting behavior doesn’t indicate scum.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]pedescribe[/SIZE][SIZE=2]- [SIZE=1]Scan, assassinate, or lynch later on. There are better cases.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
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The following people have been my main suspects for several rounds, or I have a very strong gut feeling about them:
Suburban Plankton[/SIZE][SIZE=2]- [SIZE=1]Every instinct I have says this guy is scum. Behavior, votes, the whole smash.[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2]
Inner Stickler[/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=1]- [SIZE=1]Awesome play… I still suspect you though.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2]
choie[/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=1]- Prophylactic defense arguments, duality, [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=1]defends septimus or top suspects, attacks Lightfoot, Normal Phase, or myself, activity drop-off after accusation.
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**Unvote: ShadowFacts
Vote: Inner Stickler
**[COLOR=Black]I do not suspect ShadowFacts any less, I am just acknowledging that the odds are probably not even 50/50 in my favor. I think the odds are wrong, but let’s play the odds anyway. **
I would vote for choie** if strong arguments were made in favor of Suburban Plankton and Inner Stickler by people I trust.
I’m also prepared to lynch Red Skeezix if he doesn’t have a damn good lead or a damn good explanation. But I’m not going to vote for him UNTIL those conditions are met.
I’d like to see Red Skeezix assassinate ShadowFacts, or, I’d like to see Red Skeezix assassinate whoever the number 2 candidate is this round after the lynchee dies, depending on who that is. That way it won’t do any good to wriggle out of the lynch, they’ll still die.
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I targetted Pedescribe last night.
(I know someone said not to shoot him last night, but I don’t take orders on power usage from not-even-a-little-bit confirmed players, sorry.)
Reasoning:
- He’s not around and it’s too late for him to sub out.
- Since he’s not posting it’s unlikely that we’ll get any info out of him.
- I figured that he was unlikely to be protected by anyone, giving me the greatest chance to prove my power.
- Someone said not to, don’t recall who. I can be pretty contrarian sometimes.
(That last one’s a joke.)
[QUOTE=Astral Rejection]
You awake sweaty, sore and tired. There is a large welt on your forehead and you are surrounded by the detritus of broken furniture. While you cannot clearly remember the events of last evening, the lack of blood on your knives tells you that you did not accomplish your task.
(You were blocked)
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vote ShadowFacts
I don’t believe that you targetted Pizza last night.
Edit: “[SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]whoever the number 2 candidate is this round after the lynchee dies”
…Assuming lynchee was townie.
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