Hypothetically, if they got something additional for leveling besides three actions. It doesn’t explain the reported mechanisms beign different.
If this is the case, and if Scum gain 1/2 level when voting one of their own (that gets lynched)= * odd dynamic but possible here *
Then their vote was on ** septimus **
off to look at votes again
I know bad form to quote yourself but it makes sense this way
Yes, it could be a different person, but the same mechanism.
It appears there are (or were) three roleblockers in this game:
[ul][li]Inner Stickler, the no-longer-Paranoid Doc[/li][li]ShadowFacts, the Backup/Jack-of-all-Trades[/li][li]The ‘Scum Roleblocker’[/ul][/li]If you look at the PMs that **LightFoot **posted, they are of a very different tone than the ones posted by Red and myself, so those are easily distinguished.
I believe the only people other than LightFoot to have reported having been blocked are **Red **and myself, who reported three incidents of blocking between us; the two mentioned above, and **Red’s **block from Night 4, where he received
This, as **Askthepizzaguy **mentioned, is a different ‘flavor’ than the first two blocks. that would suggest that the Scum Roleblocker and Shadowfacts have a different ‘style’, allowing us to differentiate between them. But that means the blocks on ights 1 and 3 were from the same source, which means that either:
**Ed ***did *block me on Night 1 despite having been blocked by IS, or the Scum Roleblocker blocked **Red **on Night 3 despite **Shadow’s **claim that he did it.
Furthermore, if the Night 1 and 3 blocks were from Ed/Shadow, that means the Scum blocked **Red **Night 4, which means **Shadow **must have blocked LightFoot…and if the Night 1 & 3 blocks were from the Scum Roleblocker then **Shadow **must have blocked **Red **on Night 4 and not Pizza.
I *think *the preponderance of evidence suggests **ShadowFacts **is Scum…but to be perfectly frank, I’m so twisted around by this game that I don’t trust my own analyses at this point.
And this all depends on color being more than “just color” (which I am willing to at least consider at this point), and I’m not sure how all of this plays out if we start with the assumption that **Red **is lying. Maybe someone else has the energy to run through the whole thing from that angle right now, because I don’t…
After. IS made his Doc claim in Post 1812, named his targets in Post 1816, and I claimed in Post 1822.
I think I’m gonna need to end Day an hour early again, for work related reasons.
Day ends at 5 pm central time on Thursday, August 11th.
Another option? Scum blocked Inner and Ed blocked you? Or am I as confused as I am
Look at my post 1753; I calculate that the worst-case scenario has a Scum right now at Level 4, and halfway to Level 5.
I think that doubling the ability (going from 1 block to 2) would be an awfully powerful ‘level-up’. Consider that the known ‘extra powers’ from reaching Level 3 are the fact that I am no longer ‘visible’ to my tracking targets, and IS no longer blocks his protectees. Neither of those advances is nearly as powerful as gaining a second block would be. Also, we know that whoever blocked me on Night 1 had some sort of limitation to their power, so it stands to reason that the first ‘extra’ ability would be to remove that limitation and make the blocking power complete.
*Maybe *if the roleblocker were to reach Level 5 they might gain an extra block, but I don’t see any way for that to have happened yet.
I hadn’t considered that.
Let’s see…I had
Night 1
Suburban tracked Pizza - blocked
LightFoot investigated Pizza - Pizza is Town
Red took no action
Inner Stickler protected/blocked Special Ed
The Scum blocked Suburban and killed Scathach.
Red didn’t get a kill in.
Inner blocked Ed.
LightFoot got a result on Pizza.
change that to
Night 1
Suburban tracked Pizza - blocked
LightFoot investigated Pizza - Pizza is Town
Red took no action
Inner Stickler targeted Special Ed - blocked
The Scum blocked Inner Stickler and killed Scathach.
Red didn’t get a kill in.
Inner *didn’t *block Ed, because he was blocked.
Ed blocked Suburban.
LightFoot got a result on Pizza.
All of the blocks work out OK. It explains how my PM on Night 1 and Red’s PM on Night 3 were similar: because they came from the same power.
The only problem is that I don’t believe Inner Stickler reported being blocked on Night 1. If he did, I missed it.
If he was blocked, and simply forgot to tell us, then he deserves 40 whacks with a wet trout. If he wasn’t told he was blocked, then this scenario seems to fall apart.
** Have we been given a run down on order of actions? **
Ie
- blocks (simultaneously)
2 investigations
Kills last and simultaneously?
I ran into this elsewhere and it changed the game a tad since we had not asked and the above formula was NOT the case
I sure hope the folks in the Spoiled Thread are getting their kicks out of seeing us all squirming around over here…
I believe it’s done alphabetically by Player Name
He may not know
I assume this is in reference to Inner Stickler perhaps not knowing the he was blocked.
I’d really like this to be the case, because it ties up a couple of loose ends, but it just doesn’t compute.
He doesn’t know if someone tries to kill the person he is protecting – this is SOP.
He doesn’t know if the person he is protecting and blocking attempts to use an ability – this too is SOP
He doesn’t know if he is successful in protecting his target – this is *not *SOP.
Any player with a Night Action should at the very least know if he was able to perform his action. It’s OK if they don’t know if they performed it successfully, but they should know if they performed it at all. **IS **appears to believe that he ‘did something’ on Night 1. In every other instance we have of a roleblock, the blocked person received notice that he was not able to perform his action. There’s no reason to believe it would be any different here.
Reading over my last post, it occurs to me that what I’m saying there might not actually apply to Mafia games in general. The more I think about it, I seem to recall that there have been games where I have had Night actions and have received no information at all about the success or failure of my actions, except what was revealed in the game thread.
However, my argument still applies to this game. All evidence we have suggests that a player who is blocked from using an ability in this game receives a notice that he was unable to perform his action. Since Inner Stickler does not claim to have received such a notice on Night 1, I think that he was not blocked.
Since the only results of his actions are his target not dead and perhaps blocked I don’t know if such information would be required in a PM…
NETA I don’t feel it’s a topic for lengthy debate, I was trying to peek in corners to see if I could help things make sense.
By all means, peek. I’m hoping that by the time **Pizza **gets back to the thread, he can be as overwhelmed by content overload as I am every morning when I read his overnight (for me) posts
I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
That just made my day.
Here you go, you can play with this pterodactyl I made…