This is certainly not supported by the law, and if it has happened to you, you have legal recourse. However, I am satisfied that you are making this up just to support your position.
You personally have met these immigrants who hold both positions? I just don’t believe you; I challaenge you to cite even one credible example of a single person holding both opinions. I am confident that you cannot.
The problem with Millen’s reasons is that about half of them are based on nothing but stereotyping. Black people are violent because some of them rioted in LA. They’re racist because some of them were happy with the OJ verdict. Non-white immigrants are bigots because you met some who seem to have hypocritical attitudes about immigration.
You’ve picked and chose people who are jerks, and then decided they are that way because of race or ethnicity, then projected the same feelings onto everyone who looks like them. Perhaps you can understand why your reasons are being met with skepticism?
You are so right on this. Millen follows that same route that all these guys follow…“poor poor me, just being white is good enough anymore…I actually have to complete now…those non-whites are getting everything!”
Of course in order to have this pity fest he has to ignore the real reasons why such thing occur and white’s people contribution to it."
White flight is a real problem and destroys entire neighborhoods. You have a non-white middle class that finally makes it in and within a few years they are left with slum, because all the “white” people have left, taking the tax base, the stores, the schools and then they blame the blacks for bringing down the neighborhood.
OJ is the biggest red herring of all time, Millen do you honestly believe that Joe Namath would have been convicted? Do you really believe that if OJ had be a poor busdriver from Brooklyn he would have been acquited?
Further with all the history Black People had with the legal system in this country is it so freaking hard to understand that some blacks may have felt pleasure in seeing white people finally feel the same feeling of outrage that they have felt for hundreds of freaking years?! How did it feel Millen to see OJ set free? Instead of using that feeling to understand what blacks felt, you use to form some “proof” of them trying to hold the white man down.
Everyone one of your reasons, is based on illogic…and a lack of empathy. How many centuries were blacks denied jobs? How many centuries were they called names and had no recourse? The LA riots? Again how many lynchings, how many white riots? But none of that matters to you…does it?
race riotsNo, y ou’re being “held down”.
Finally why don’t you pack up your kit and relocate to Europe…because your White Nation ain’t going to happen here. You have to know that…
To echo what Marley and some others have said, you’re arguing from the specific to the general, Millen, and it doesn’t work. You have met people with racist views against white people and hypocritical views on immigration. It’s certainly possible - the world is full of stupid people - but how can you be sure that their views are the majority opinion? How many have you met? Fifty? A hundred? A thousand? Compare that to the number of immigrants in this country; compare it to the number of “non-whites” (I cringe at the term, but I’m momentarily stuck for a synonym). To bolster your opinion, you bring up the L.A. Riots. I don’t see how that proves that blacks (latinos, natives, hindus, etc, etc) are out to eradicate the white race. That was an instance of a specific group of people acting out against a specific institution - in this case, the Los Angeles police. I’m not justifying it, but it doesn’t apply here. The OJ Simpson verdict - again, it doesn’t apply. They were happy he got off. It doesn’t mean that his freedom was step #1 in their master plan to overthrow the man; they thought he was railroaded, and were pleased to see him acquitted.
I mean, is this what the White Race™ needs to be defended from? Affirmative action? The inability to call someone a n***er at work? A few idiots out there talking tough about how they’re going to destroy the man? I don’t see how any of this adds up the the impending destruction of White Culture™. Can you find something that does? A survey saying that 76% percent of black men would support getting rid of Whitey? Secret documents proving that latinos are out to get us? Or could it be that you’re letting personal experiences cloud your view of a very large group of people?
Millen88, I think one major source of the difference in opiniion here is that you have chosen to focus on the crap that comes with racial integration, and the negatives that you have experienced. It makes sense that one would want to protect one’s self, and if I’m reading you correctly, you seem to think that segregation on a nation-state level is the way to go; whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, natives will all have their own piece of America (please let me know if I am misinterpreting you).
But would it change your mind if you knew about how many white folk have had positive experiences with racial integration? If, let’s say, 90% of American whites (by whichever definition of white you wish to apply) value the racial integration and declare it to be more of a positive than a negative, would you still be supportive of a separate White American nation?
White’s founded and built North American countries.
Blacks founded and built African countries
Why the disparity between the two Continents?
curious
Are Whites just smarter?
The point is that Millen and his ilk, aren’t being logical and using race as an excuse for their own weakness.
Look at the history of Europe at all the violence, comitted by people…wait for it, that look like one another.
America is an incredible nation. We have millions of people of different religions, colors, language and manage to keep from killing each other in drones. The fact that we don’t have cities burning every day is proof that multiculturism works.
Please read Guns, germs, and steel.
“Multi-culturalism” is not even a word. It is without definition. You can’t have a multiple of cultures. Because a people only have one culture. The world is made up of many peoples and the world has Multiple Cultures, but adding “-ism” to it implies that the cultures are getting mixed, which is not the case.
Every culture is specific to a genetic pool. Sure you have some Mulattos, and half-breeds wandering around, but they don’t contribute much.
What are you whining about Africans not going to the moon because they didn’t invent math now?
Hey Millen–I’m still not clear how “whiteness” is determined. My best friend has a relative who’s traced his family roots back to the 1500s and there’s not one bit of “non-white” blood anywhere in that tree (Scottish, English and some Dutch). I, on the other hand, am Jewish. Traditionally this means (to White Nationalists) “non-White” and yet my skin is several shades lighter than my pal’s.
So, in your hypothetical “Whiteopia”, if my pal and I come a’knockin’ (and I admit I’m Jewish to the gatekeeper), which one of us gets in?
Fenris
But it’s a rule that is internalized by blacks now…one that we fully perpetuate.
Even if all your points were proof that the white man is being threatened, it’s still pansy-assed to want to pick up your toys and leave because of them. All of these things have happened within your lifetime. Hell, the riots didn’t happen but 14 years ago. If you were a strong-minded individual, you’d stay here and fight to make things better, like my ancestors did when the real shit was flying.
Sorry, but none of the things you listed above count as “real shit” IMHO.
I don’t see a threat to white people anywhere. White faces dominate television and the movies. Their faces are plastered on all the magazines. We read about their triumphs and tragedies in the newspaper. White people are still at the top rungs of society. They still hold the majority of the power positions in the government and in industry. I’m looking for work right now…the majority of the interviewers have been white. The hiring managers…all white. The professors in my department are all white. Not even a token Asian…ALL WHITE. The meeting that I’m going to be attending next week is going to be predominately white. People like myself are such a novelty that the organizers of this meeting are treating us to a special lunch! All six of us!
And yet, when I drive into school, I see the slumfolk hanging out on the street. They’re all black. The panhandlers that accost people in the quad…all black. The criminal suspects on the news…almost all black. When the doctor expert on the news talks about a health issue, which group is usually at the highest risk for contracting it? Black people! Who’s the guy who gets shot “accidently” by the police? A Black guy! When I flip through the magazine and read about test scores, who’s the group that is usually at the bottom? Black PEOPLE! Who’s cleaning the floors and flipping burgers at my school? Latino and black PEOPLE!
Everywhere I turn, white people are doing well. They live better than I do, they’re lives are more special and treasured than mine is, and they have better prospects than I have. No one is telling me this, but I can’t help but internalize this message. For you to feel, just because the strides of other groups, that whites are being disadvantaged is insane to me. Either I live in Bizarro World or you do.
White or Jew? is not on the skin ONLY. It’s a term for a combination of values.
Jews facial traits:
So I guess the Jew ship won’t be docking in America, much less stand on shore and get to a gatekeeper.
So if culture is genetic and this country is composed of people from many genetic backgrounds, why is it possible to speak of an “American culture”?
This country America is founded and created by White Europeans. Who have a relatively homogenous gene pool. White Europeans mixed exclusively among themselves for the past 400,000 years when British Isles were connected to Europe/Russia and the Mediteranean/Black Sea divided Africa and Asia from Europe.
American is only a mix of White European genes. Only recently have Africans, Asians, and Jews and Mexicans come in.
I guess you can’t read. I said it was “a combination” of three.
Stop trying to debase the argument to the lowest common denomenator. Race is complex.
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American is a mix of all the groups that have been here, not just whites. I can name two major creations of American culture–jazz and rock-n-roll–that were not of White European origin. Remember that the next time you listen to your racist heavy metal.
As someone descended from black slaves and Native Americans, as well as Europeans, I’m genetically more American than anyone who’s “pure” European.
Folks, I would suggest not spending too much time on this one. He is repeating the same false claims that his predecessor Franklin Philly made up, including errors of the ages of humanity and imagined geographical boundaries that were already corrected twice.
There is no point in even trying to discuss a point with someone who tries to make the “white race” ten times older than it could possibly be.
The argument is coming from the lowest common denominator, though. Don’t blame me because it falls apart so easily.
Racie is complex if you believe it’s a meaningful thing.