Of course there is nothing saying the comics and tv have to be the same. Marvel wiki puts Luke Cage at being able to lift 25 tons but Jessica Jones has strength that is undetermined. She has some level of invulnerability but probably not as good as Cage. One big clue that they are not making her the same is that comic Jessica can fly.
Resurrected Elektra is now powerful enough to effect Luke Cage with a punch. Kevlar suit or not that would turn Daredevil into jelly. Iron Fist too.
Agreed, that is why I separated the two. And didn’t she fly in the TV series briefly? I can’t remember. I know they made an issue about how she’s really good at falling.
Invulnerable characters in group situations are hard. None of the Hand except the bosses should give Cage too much difficulty, but then you’ve lost the story, especially Elektra/Daredevil.
Not even if the architect who designed the building knew exactly where the weak points in the foundation were, and made a blueprint detailing exactly where to place the explosives to make that happen?
I’m at least 75 percent sure that they retconned Luke into being stronger than Jessica; I don’t think that the character has been Class 25 for his entire history. I know that, in the original OHOTMU that was printed back in '83 (and which I still have a copy of), they are very explicit about how invulnerable Luke is but, IIRC, they don’t mention his strength level at all. I think that, originally, Luke’s strength was supposed to be below Spider-man’s, whereas I think that Jessica was always supposed to be at least as strong as Spider-man is and, at some point, the characters may have been retconned to where Luke was stronger.
We see her take off with Kilgrave, but we never see her land, so we don’t know how long she was actually able to remain airborne. It’s possible that in the Marvel NF-verse, she can just “leap over duplexes in a single bound” or some such, and it’s possible that she can actually fly, but she doesn’t have the kind of flight ability that is intuitive, and she could never be arsed to learn how to do it properly, so she doesn’t like to mess with it.
In the show Powers with Sharlto Copley, they mention that some new supers die crashing or flying into buildings because being able to defy gravity doesn’t mean you know how to fly, like deal with crosswinds, thermals, navigating from the air, etc. and if you’re not invulnerable it’s an issue. Like that, Netflix Jessica seems to be able to fly, but doesn’t know how so doesn’t trust her ability - and since it would be all superhero-ey anyway, she refuses to practice. Plus, she’s usually intoxicated, so not a good idea.
So, basically, like Hancock, if Hancock weren’t bulletproof?
Not even close. They hand waved at “structural columns” but that wouldn’t matter. I have blown shots of 40-50 lbs pretty often. It’s not as impressive as you would think. Take a duffel bag worth of C4 let’s say 100 lbs. Colleen was carrying it easily so it didn’t look that heavy but I’ll assume. They showed 4 columns. 25 lbs each. Now the bombs were next to the columns. Not bored in and tamped down. 25 lbs would have destroyed the room it was in and scratched a thick concrete column. A quick google search showed that in the demolition of a 27 story building 1.5 tons of explosives were used to bring it down.
And it’s much more expensive.
Punisher is rumored to drop in November. Any word on other seasons of the other shows?
Thanks for the info… That said, this post is an adequate summary of why I refuse to consume fiction based on anything about which I have practical knowledge. If I can’t watch something without willfully suspending disbelief, and without being able to turn off the part of my brain that wants to play “spot the inaccuracies,” I don’t want to watch it.
In fairness, I should further acknowledge that that is an entirely toothless and meaningless “boycott” on my part, if for no other reason than because the things about which I have practical knowledge wouldn’t make for an interesting television show, anyway.
20 years police 27 years military. That covers a lot of Hollywood output. I just grit my teeth mostly.
I know they’re shooting more Jessica Jones right now.
Sort of. Almost no comicverse seems to take into account that flying is dangerous if you aren’t invulnerable like Superman; if you can’t just fly thru a building, you probably shouldn’t be up there.
That shouldn’t be too much of a problem, just like running away shouldn’t be a problem in a horror film. Avoiding large stationary objects isn’t that much of a problem, and after a day or three of practice, doing so at speed shouldn’t be too much of an issue. What should be a problem is when Supes takes LL up 3,000+ meters and now she can’t breathe and she develops acute frostbite, or when any flying non-invulnerable hero gets up higher than a few hundred meters.
Remember that this isn’t like driving - flying superheroes are constantly knocked off course in mid-air, into buildings or into the ground.
And not only do writers often ignore the problems of non-invulnerable passengers dealing with the cold or lack of oxygen, there’s also the speed. As someone that rides a motorcycle, I can tell you that over 100mph dealing with air moving around you is an issue in street clothes, especially without eye protection.
In Exo by Steven Gould a non-invulnerable person flies at 500mph for a couple of seconds - she’s bruised an sore all over, gets two black/red eyes, and the street clothes that don’t rip off completely are shredded. That’s how Lois should look being rescued from a plane at cruising speed in a skirt and heels.
Superspeed too. Unless you’re invulnerable running that fast will rip the skin from you sooner or later.
It wasn’t explicitly stated, but I got the impression that using The Substance to create Black Sky was different than using it to resurrect someone, and presumably would need a mega-dose of The Substance. The others probably thought they had plenty of doses left until they found out Alexandra unilaterally used the whole stockpile to create Black Sky.
I’m a little late to the party I know but just finished it last night.
What a waste. This just never came together at all.
Every scene of Sigourney Weaver doing old rich lady stuff (how many episodes featured her just… eating in a restaurant?) could have been done to further the characters and their dynamics.
The only thing I liked was the Elektra twist with when she killed Alexandra. I thought the big reveal would be that the “black sky” was their code word for “new vessel.” My theory was that Elektra was brought back to be Alexandra’s new host. The vessel retains skills and knowledge of their previous life but has no connection to it --kind of like the Trill on Star Trek. Elektra finding this out would be her reason for turning.
Also, the Hand were way more interesting in Daredevil-- ninjas are always better than just random dudes in army jackets.
Although there is no question that Danny Rand was annoyingly naive, it was made up by the rest of the characters. One thing they did particularly well was give each one different motivations that culminated in their reunion rather than the usual, they all saw a fire/spaceship/monster and all came running.
The Sigourney Weaver character was interesting enough, but it seemed like a re-tread of the King Pin especially from the first Daredevil series. There were differences for sure, but they came across very similar.
Overall, I enjoyed it, and although I knew that Daredevil would survive, I still felt the ending was poignant.
Oh and there is no question that even though he died, stick was probably the biggest bad-ass of them all.
//i\