Define "Politically Correct" + Give 2 examples in your life worth raging at

Can’t really justify the burrito in portland crap except that it was really White Knighting.

But pointing out that more Americans have killed by homegrown right-wing extremists than by Islamist terrorists is just fact, and Trump panders to those groups.

I can see how it hurts if you subscribe to that philosophy, but it doesn’t change the facts.

Often more of a pseudo-patriotic justification, like a devotion to the “real America” as distinct from those coastal elites. But a straightforward patriotic justification is often used too, like how kneeling during the National Anthem supposedly insults veterans.

Anyhow, I think it’s silly to give the same behavior different names according to who’s practicing it, or what their justification appears to be. Because that really does lead to how ‘PC’ is generally used these days: as a term that has to do with who practices it, with the ‘it’ no longer confined to a particular behavior, but just whatever you don’t like about the people you don’t like.

Being ‘politically correct’ means you show respect to others and take their feelings into consideration. It is a meaningless term that butt-hurt white people use to blame other people when they are no longer allowed to say sexist or racist things. It is a term used by Republicans and Conservatives to claim that they are the victims of an evil conspiracy, when in fact we’re just asking them to be respectful. In their bizarro-world perspective, no one is ever sincerely hurt and no one is ever genuinely intimidated. And - of course - the speaker is never at fault. It’s always just the stupid PC liberal snowflake thought police trying to shame them for their (objectively egregious) behavior. I have yet to see even a single example of someone complaining about ‘political correctness’ that was not, in fact, just a reflexive response to someone pointing out they were being a dickhead.

Now whenever I hear someone whine about things being ‘politically correct,’ I instantly know I am dealing with a troll.

Yeah, especially since the issues in all cases are about equally political. I would be okay with a modified classification scheme that distinguished different kinds of “political correctness” as sub-categories.

E.g., “Politeness Correctness” for complaining about racial slurs and “Patriotism Correctness” for getting upset about people kneeling during the anthem. Maybe “Plutocracy Correctness” for whining about “class warfare” criticism of wealthy elites. We could potentially have a lot of these sub-categories.

I don’t care what we call it. I was just irked that it seemed different between left and right but couldn’t define it.

Kimstu came to the rescue, and defined it exactly.

You didn’t hear about the astronaut who quoted Churchill?

:confused: Where did Scott Kelly complain about “political correctness”? He posted a tweet calling Churchill “one of the greatest leaders of modern times”, which sparked a lot of comments by people who don’t agree that Churchill was one of the greatest leaders of modern times as well as people disagreeing with that disagreement, and then he graciously apologized:

I don’t see that Scott Kelly was in any way being a dickhead there (and AFAIK none of the critics of his remark about Churchill were saying he was), nor was he in any way complaining about “political correctness”.

You truly are on to something here. Then if somebody uses PC incorrectly we could jump in and insist they use the proper term, as it’s deeply offensive to equate class Warfare with race while correcting somebody’s use of improper language.

It is wonderfully meta. I bet we could make it catch on and become a thing. We just need to come up with all the proper terms for all the different categories, and then insist authoritatively that they be used.

If we do this it might be the seed that spreads through the PC culture, self-destructing these assholes everywhere (like when Kirk played Beastie Boys at the Aliens in the last Star Trek)

You are a fucking genius. I am sorry about all those terrible things I said about you.

We have to do this. Who is with me?

Thanks, I don’t remember any such things, but no problem anyway. I’m always up for some pointless nitpicking of neologisms. I would merely request that all the sub-category names have to begin with “P”.

I take this to mean you are not going to help me destroy PC culture?

Not if it requires misrepresenting facts, nope, sorry. We can still do all the “PC” neologisms though, right?

That goes without saying.

Absolutely. I’ll dork on eroding your morality later.

It’ll be easy. I’ll just take you to a Trump rally.

“Do you want illegal immigrants raping your Grandmother? Of course not. Well, you know what would prevent that? A wall.”

It’s insidiously logical.

Paranoia Correctness.

Politeness correctness - race
Patriot correctness - disrespecting the US
Plutocracy Correctness - class warfare

What else?

Patriarchy Correctness - gender issues
Policy correctness - government regulations
Polynomial correctness - math
We need something for climate, ah-ha!

Pollution correctness

Body image and nutrition?

Yes.

(But seriously, think about your Grandma before you vote in November, ok?)

The point is that in my experience, the anti-PC crowd is largely made of conservative whites who feel that PC means they can’t say or do disrespectful things to minorities.

But if you say disrespectful things about them (even if they are true), they react very badly.

Refusing to admit that you can tell who is an illegal immigrant by their shoes = PC went too far.

Refusing to admit that blacks commit more crimes = PC went too far.

Pointing out that conservative white men are one of the biggest sources of domestic terrorism and pro-fascist politics = unfair.

I don’t need an excuse to rage; I’ll rage whenever the fuck I want, and at whomever I want.

I wonder if Kimstu has figured it out yet that Scylla is taking a huge piss on his face.

Freaking out about the supposed War on Christmas, insisting people say Merry Christmas instead of happy holidays or whatever, insisting on Christmas tree instead of holiday tree: Piety Correctness? Pastoral Correctness? Pine tree Correctness?