Please stop using the word “illegal” as a noun. It dehumanizes people, and as such, it is only fit for use by people who are okay with viewing human beings as things.
This has already been pointed out to magellan01, but he’s a shithead, so I’m not confident that he is redeemable.
Ha. I’m all for login after the job creators first and being hard on them Send them to jail. Not only don’t I have a problem with that, I strongly advocate for it. As we do that, secure the border. Period.
Believe what you want. A country has the right to secure its border. When it means preventing a wave of unskilled workers flooding the market, making it harder on the unskilled workers we already have, they have an obligation to shut it down. The crime part is extra. Citizens in a country live with a social contract, and accepting that there will be some minimal degree of crime is part of that. Zero illegals should be adding to the statistics. ZERO.
Have legal illegals roaming our streets. And when you do, guess what. Zero crimes will be committed by illegals.
Fuck that. They are illegal aliens. If you think I feel any compunction whatsoever to coddle them, you are (as usual) sadly mistaken.
Then why isn’t that in your plan?
Why is the focus always on the jobseekers and not those who lure them here?
Who says it’s not?
I you think I’m just throwing this in, go do a search and view my post on the subject. I’ve given detailed plans several times. And going after the employers is always at, or near, the top of the list. I do believe it is the single most effective thing we can be doing. But only if people start going to jail.
Exactly! Regularize the undocumented immigrants’ status! Glad we agree on something!
See post #275.
So the term “illegal” dehumanizes people and is therefore unacceptable, but “shithead” does not dehumanize and is acceptable?
Ever heard of hypocrisy?
Another idiot who thinks that pointing at people who are intolerant of intolerance is a real gotcha.
Just leaning in to say that what I’ve never heard anyone say is to call someone who wasn’t another human a shithead (well, maybe the occasional cat, but they don’t seem to care). It’s about as humanizing an insult as they come.
True, but by that logic, people don’t usually call animals “illegals” either.
… and the Dutch!
I prefer the term “impermissive immigrants.” Because they’re in the country without the required official permission. “Illegal” is inappropriate because people are not illegal; OTOH, “undocumented immigrants” makes it sound like the only problem is that they omitted to fill out some paperwork and all would be fine if they did.
Difficulty with reading for comprehension may not be a SURE sign of being a shithead, but it can be viewed as weak evidence in support of such a hypothesis.
Bullshit back at you. Why should you get your half of the overall package first, but I have to wait – how long? – for mine?
Comprehensive immigration reform is the way forward, because that way, both sides have to give something in order to get something. Your fantasy of “Pay me, and, later, I might pay you back, if I decide I want to, maybe, no promises” is bullshit.
The Republican allergy to compromise shows their inability to govern.
More to the point, “lock down the border” is (1) certainly not the sort of thing to be conceded at all, now or later, in exchange for immigration reform, and (2) impossible, see post #275.