The Democrats who are using all means to overturn the election result, don’t they care about the consequences if they succeed? Do they honestly think Hillary will become President and all will be well with the world? The fact is that the country could well descend into the worst violence since the Civil War. Are they really happy to risk that? OK, their candidate lost. But are they willing to potentially let slip the dogs of war rather than see Trump in office? It seems so and that is just sad.
I think we need to establish if the election was fair. If it was all above board, why are Republicans fighting so hard not to have recounts? If they had nothing to hide, they would welcome the opportunity to prove it. I think it’s entirely possible that the election was stolen.
If you’re going to allow for the possibility of civil war based on the electoral college doing its dumb thing, surely you have to allow for the equally likely possibility of nuclear war based on Trump doing his dumb thing.
Or you could dismiss both possibilities as hyperbolic grandstanding, which is what I’m likely to do.
Why do you care if the cops search your house? If you have nothing to hide, you would welcome the opportunity to prove it? If the Democrats are willing to waste good money on bet with near ZERO opportunity of panning out, why shouldn’t the Republicans protest, too? That’s the way the game is played, and it would be exactly the same if the rolls were reversed.
No.
Not a good analogy. There are laws in place to allow candidates to demand a recount. If these laws are followed and if Republicans are satisfied that they did not steal the election, the proper thing for them to do is let it happen and then snicker when the results are borne out.
If they’re doing it legally, they’re more than welcome to come on in. Your analogy sucks.
Trump said he wouldn’t accept the results unless he won. Why is this different?
Besides, Trump said the election was rigged. He said millions of illegals voted.
Recounts and independent electors are as much a part of the system as the Electoral College itself. If the recounts are held and, as I expect, Trumps victory is upheld at least everybody will be more accepting of the fact. In the unlikely event that the result is overturned and all three states end up in Hillary’s column, that’s the result a a perfectly legal recount and should be accepted just as much.
Political violence should be treated as it always is.
If the recounts give a substantially different result, i.e., enough to shift the election (which I think is extremely unlikely), then this almost certainly means that the election was tampered with. Wouldn’t this be important to know?
Most likely, the results won’t change and there will be more confidence in them (as valid, not as rational).
You’re forgetting several things.
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Trump failed to get the majority of the popular vote. Therefore, the majority of the people did NOT want Trump. I would assume it’s a pretty safe bet the majority of the people still do not want Trump.
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Foreign entities did, to some degree, influence the election. Fake news, which Trunp supporters bought like it was gospel, hacking private computers and computer files, which would land an American in jail… ect.
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The majority of Americans feel Trump is in no way qualities to lead a boy scout troop. He’s a hot-headed loose canon.
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Violence? That’s the threat? Take our side or well burn your cities, hurt your people? That’s what you’re saying will happen? And people wonder why so many are Anti-Trumpers are equating Trump to Hitler. And his supporters to - well, let’s leave that unsaid.
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He’s divided the country. People, many like me, will never support anything he does* because* he’s LIED to us too many times. He’s lied about everything. I can’t trust a word he says, and I don’t have time to fact check his comments. I will never support him or anything he does because I find him totally untrustworthy.
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People want honesty,integrity, intelligence and patience in an elected official. They don’t want a moron who storms twitter at 3AM ranting and looking like a spoiled corporate brat. They don’t want an idiot who thinks gold plating shit makes it smell less like shit.
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The majority of the people who voted against Trump did so because they know, with a certainty, that he will fail.
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Are they willing to risk war, for Hillary, as you call it? That’s insane. We won’t be bullied by the hamster-fisted groper or his minions. We can always build more prisons for those who think violence is appropriate.
Yes, Hillary wasn’t a good choice. But in comparison, Hillary was the only sane choice.
What makes you think a recount would identify tampering and not just simply recount the tampered votes again?
It’s not the recounts, that’s always been standard in elections. It’s the stuff like court challenges and hassling the Electors that’s very much not politics as usual. Some Democrats, and I’m by no means saying it’s all of them, don’t appear to give a shit what happens as long as they can throw a spanner into the works. If the tables were turned these very same people would be screaming unfair if Republicans were using the same tactics. Of course their idiotic behavior makes it likely that’s exactly what will happen when Democrats win the Presidency.
They need to accept reality and move on.
The republicans put forth and elected Donald Trump. If they’re not taking it seriously, I don’t see why the democrats should.
What if all this proves the election WAS illegal. What then? What if Trump and his campaign knew and participated in it? Are you still going to stick by him?
Recounts & Court Challenges are legal. Please let me know about Electors being personally hassled.
I do hope all Democrats soon focus their energies to fighting against everything the Republicans stand for. That is legal, non-violent fighting. Not the Nazi crap that disappointed Republicans will be resorting to in a couple of years.
It should also be noted that it wasn’t the Democrats who requested the recounts, it was Jill Stein’s campaign. The Democrats only got involved once the ball already got rolling.
By his earlier antics Mr. Trump called the legitimacy of the process into question, so forgive those who, despite his victory, now seek to establish its true legitimacy or lack of same.
But that’s the question. Are they doing it legally, and why shouldn’t the Republicans challenge them if they think they are not? Just like you would if you thought the police search was illegal. It’s a perfectly good analogy-- if we always knew the result of a legal challenge in advance, there would never be a need to challenge. It’s your analysis that has problems. 
Here in NC, our sitting governor only recently conceded the election, after filing a bunch of frivolous complaints about election fraud. I have a real problem with all his claims about illegal aliens and convicted felons voting, because that sort of talk feeds into racist narratives. But the legal requests for recounts? Not a problem at all.