Dems - Defend your Senators holding the budget bill hostage

Literally nobody in Washington is arguing against better border security in a DACA deal.

An excellent question for their employers.

DACA recipients can apply for renewal every two years, and so long as they’re under that protected status they can legally work, pay taxes, etc.

It looks like renewals were pretty easy to obtain.

Perhaps the DACA debate can continue in this thread I just opened on that specific subject.

The IRS needs to fix their record matching. How can a stockbroker in NYC also be picking tomatoes in California?

Did that site explain that the Supreme Court has said that states can’t add to or subtract from the conditions the Constitution sets forth for qualification for Congress, and that when New Jersey (which also has a recall law) tried to use it to recall Senator Robert Menendez, the courts specifically cited that Supreme Court language in smacking down that request?

Apparently it did not. Which would make that site’s information accurate (the law is on the books) but very misleading (the inference is that it can be used, and it can’t).

I’m sure you didn’t wish to be accurate but misleading, so I rushed right in to correct the issue. You can thank me any time.

Bear market?

Thank you for what-posting the titles of court cases without explaining how they pertained to the question at hand? Once again, I(and, I dare say, most of us) am not a lawyer, and this isn’t a court of law.

Don’t you think you’d better go tell the Oregon Attorney General how he’s basically wrong about a key part of his state’s laws? I’m sure he’d appreciate some correction.

I don’t have his email but you can send him this link if you have it:
The Committee to Recall Robert Menendez v. Nina Wells

IANAL, but that seems to have ended at the New Jersey Supreme Court.

So you’re in favor of additional funding for the IRS to go after more missing tax payments? Since the GOP seems to generally be reducing such funding?

Note that, even with more funding, the IRS would be get a lot more bang for their buck auditing returns like mine than people making less than the median/mean income.

So,* you got nothing,* there is no special treatment, no one is getting taxes forgiven.

Note that even if there is no special requirement for back taxes, that doesnt mean they are getting tax amnesty.

No one, under any provision would have their taxes forgiven.

Some suggested ideas for amnesty maybe would not require that the immigrant have to hew to special requirements for back taxes.** But nothing, no where, at all, ever suggested any immegtrant get special tax amnesty.

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How about the grandchildren of bank robbers and drug dealers?

The kids in question are kids of people who were brought here themselves as children.

So, if you have little sympathy for children because their parents turn to criminal behaviors, does that lack of sympathy extend to their children as well?

How many generations do you think should have to pay?

If you use fake documents for a job, what is your punishment? A fine, right?

If the punishment for using fake documents to get a job was to remove you from the country that you have known your entire life and to get dropped off in a foreign country where you don’t know the language, the culture, have any contacts, money or resources, then that would be an appropriate punishment for Dreamers as well.

I have no problem with dreamers or other people who provided false documentation in order to obtain work in the US paying a fine. Deporting them over it though, that does seem a bit extreme.

Problem is is that most employers who employed them were provided with documentation that was in line with the documentation that is required. That is was fraudulent should not be a punishment to the employer.

The employers who should be punished are the ones that pay under the table, they know very well that they are breaking the law, but there is no record of that, so it’s a bit harder to prosecute.

And not just the ones that employed undocumented immigrants either. Paying under the table is quite common with people who are perfectly eligible to work as well.

Nope. It just means they are getting the same treatment as every other American taxpayer. That the IRS will investigate them for unpaid back taxes exactly the same as they would anyone else.

You are totally and completely wrong on this issue.

Here we see the standard GOP-loyalist stereotype of the Illegal Immigrant as a criminal drug-smuggling tax cheat etc. (and some, I’m sure, are good people). But they’re *more *likelyto be conscientious taxpayers than those with the privilege of birth, and they pay into Social Security without getting any benefits from it. You can’t claim it on a fake number, remember.

You’re welcome.

CZARCASM: Here’s what the law says about this subject: xxx xx xxxx xxx xx.

BRICKER: That’s not accurate.

CZARCASM: This isn’t a court of law!

Deporting to Denmark or Norway, not so bad. To El Salvador or Guatemala? By comparison, Mexico isn’t too bad. Pretty bad, but not that bad. Drug gangs in Mexico won’t kill your whole family to make a point. Not usually. So, there’s that.

You forget to add “Neener, neener!”
Otherwise, that’s a very…creative…summation, counselor.

Democrats together with most Republicans would be able to pass anything. The fact of the matter is that it is Democrats that were refusing to pass a continuing resolution (not even a budget, a continuing resolution) that gave them CHIP funding for 6 years. It was Democrats employing the filibuster to prevent legislation that would have funded the government, so yes I blame the minority party for pretty much any shutdown. I don’t think this shutdown was as bad as the one over repealing Obamacare but its still a Democratic shutdown.