Not much of a pit thread…just annoyed by the holier than thou tone in this thread. I know he’s just a stupid little mega-puppy with delusions of sainthood, but it gets to the point where you just have to vent…and the GD thread isn’t the right place for it.
Just some choice bits here:
Its obvious he’s got a bug up his ass about US soldiers in Iraq. Not just the administration, not the congress, not even the people who sent those soldiers there…but the soldiers themselves. He has ‘no sympathy’ for those folks thrown into that situation…but loads of sympathy for the Iraqi’s, reguardless if they are victim or monster.
Here is the bit though that kicked off this pit thread:
Well, excuse me! I didn’t know we had a saint wanabe in our midst! Yeah, I know…he’s probably a teen age weenie with delusions of grandure and zero grounding in reality…but gods this attitude is annoying.
You know you are way out in left field when RT comes in and give you a spankin’…and you are purportedly on HIS side!
It’s the weekly **Der Trihs ** pitting. We could almost have a café thread on this weekly series.
I despise what he says about our soldiers, but I have apparently become numb to it. Strange how that can happen.
I really like bacon on hamburgers–keep the cheese the fuck away from it. Nobody serves those either but apparently everyone thinks cheese is the best thing for bacon since… more bacon?
Anyway, I sympathize, is what I’m saying.
Oh hey, there’s a restaurant near my hometown that serves a sandwich composed of bacon, mozarella, and diced peppers, onions, and tomatos. Also, I think they put cocaine in there or something.
They did have bacon cheese burgers briefly about ten years ago. They used the round bacon from the bacon McMuffins. I’m surprised that it didn’t catch on.
You can still get a grilled chicken sandwich with bacon but, even though the bacon is in strips, it is completely flat and just unbacon-like to piss me off.
Anyway, I always liked pacifists no matter how misguided. You know that if they piss you off enough, you can just kick their ass and not have anything to worry about.
Christ, that’s one of the most jerkish things I’ve seen posted on this MB!! XT, IIRC, has one or more close relatives stationed in Iraq. Beyond the pale, indeed. Isn’t that clear violation of the rules? Wishing death on someone? Was that post reported to the mods?
Not that I know, or anything, but kinda assumed that rule was regarding wishing death on a particular person, like Joe Blow, but not when one wishes death on a category of people. Swinish, yes, agin the rules, maybe not.
My husband and I saw a very emotionally gripping play recently, called iWitness. As the linked review states:
Now, before anyone goes there, let me make this perfectly clear, I AM NOT COMPARING BUSH TO HITLER OR THIS WAR TO WWII OR ANY OTHER CONVOLUTED GODWINISM.
That out of the way, even though this particular reviewer didn’t give it 4-star raves, he goes on to say,
And it was. It provoked much conversation not only on the ride home, but for several days afterward.
The original book about Jägerstätter’s life, In Solitary Witness: The Life and Death of Franz Jagerstatter, was the inspiration for Daniel Ellsberg’s decision to leak the Pentagon Papers to the The New York Times and thereby bring the atrocities of the Vietnam war to the public’s attention.
I know it’s popular to hate on Der Trihs on this board, but his position in this case is not unprecedented in history. [
](http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/04/23/062029.php) Now, hoping that all our soldiers are killed as a result of their participation is going a bit too far, IMO. One cannot expect anyone else, let alone everyone else, to be held to the same moral standards one sets for oneself, nor to make the same level of personal sacrifice even if they did.
I just wanted to point out that sometimes it’s not as simple as the Black and White we try to paint things, including people’s opinions and their willingness to take stands that we might not be willing to take ourselves.
That may be true, but what does it have to this partiuclar situation? Why do we need an analogy or a history lesson? No one is saying one should blindly obey authority at all times. The question is, what about this particular time? That’s all we’re talking about.
Yeah, I realized as I hit the submit button that I probably should’ve said “way too far,” but I held out hope that the smart people on this board wouldn’t be so fucking pedantic as to “call” me on it, given the very next sentence I typed. I should’ve known you would disappoint me.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and all that. And oftentimes, there is good in history that we would be wise to copy. I believe that this is one of those “particular times.” YMMV.
I asked about this specifically in one of the Pit sticky threads. According to Giraffe (i think it was he who answered my question), you can’t wish death on another poster, but you can wish death on a broad group (provided that group isn’t so narrowly defined as to obviously be about a specific poster). You can also wish death on a specific individual if that person is not a member of the board.
Im not taking sides John (I don’t like the idea of U.S. soldiers dying at all), but you have to remember this is an international message board. We have had many a poster support the war on Iraq stipulating that Iraqi casualties are acceptable. Thus, we cannot be surprised when someone takes the opposing view point.
However, I will say that in the name of open discourse which leads to the reduction of ignorance, his statements were along the same lines as “turn the ME into glass” or “kill em all and let God sort em out”. Both tactics I strongly disagree with and should be ignored.
[quote=Der Thris=And if someone invaded my country, would you say I was wrong to hope that we managed to kill them off ? Or is it only American soldiers whose life is sacrosanct ? I didn’t say “American soldiers”, I specified “American solders in Iraq” for a reason.[/quote]
I love how this douchenozzle keeps trying to get people to think along the lines of “What if this country’s army invaded your country?” bullshit. This is assuming the insurgents are the majority of citizens that want Hussein in control. I suspect there are more Iraqi’s that want a stable government and the US to leave than there are people that want suicide bombers and radical nutcases running rampant beheading people because they follow one sect over another.
According to this logic, call it Godwinizing if you must, he would have cheered the Nazi’s toward victory in WWII.
After all, the US was part of removing the government in Germany, so the citizens had every right to kill Allied soldiers.
I’ll say this. Were the US ever get to a point of having a government that was as brutal and dictatorial as either of the two mentioned, I’d gladly welcome the foreign soldiers. Especially if they were from a country that has proven that they’ll stick around and rebuild. (Germany and Japan had some pretty good years if I’m not mistaken.) But shitmonger just wants Americans to die. Fuck the “soldier” qualifier he likes to use to soften his bile. He wants Americans to die.
Thats exactly what I was thinking.