We do.
The mods could just say “don’t post in GD or you’ll lose your posting privileges.”
Of course they won’t, let alone force him to stop flaming all over GD, but that’s neither here nor there.
Time for Timer? Fuck, yeah.
*On some weekend when it’s raining
And your mother is complaining
That you’re hanging around just twiddling your thumbs
Tell your mom that you’ve been itchin’
To make something in the kitchen
And the mess, oh yes, will be a minimum*
(All typed from memory. I could do the whole song, if need be).
Wanna hear about Conjunction Junction?
No.
Sigh . . .
"Conjunction Junction, what’s your dysfunction?
Hooking up guns and nuts and ammo"
I do—but if your stream-of-consciousness took you directly from “pussy” to “chunks of cheese,” I’m somewhat concerned about the company you keep.
Mmm, yeasty.
I laugh when I hear that the right-wingers are the ones shooting everybody. Last I checked, it was inner-city, black males that shot everyone. They just don’t shoot abortion clinics and such. And last I heard, it was environmental leftists that committed bombings and arson and the bigger terrorist acts, thus heading up the gov’t’s domestic threat lists.
If anybody was to support a new regime in the US, it’d be the left. They’re the ones that want things to change. But it’d be socialist LONG before fascist, I think. If a fascist gov’t is a given, then I’d say it’s a crapshoot for who’d support it.
It’s all right. Until I reach the bottom of the fifth beer, I’m somewhat concerned too.
Well, define “bigger”. Looking at lists of recent really big acts of domestic terrorism in the U.S. (i.e. someone dies) comes back to Tim McVeigh (right wing), Eric Robert Rudolph (right wing), Theodore Kaczynski (I’m not sure, actually)…
If you’re willing to go back 40 years to the height of Vietnam war protests, that’s where you find left-wing violence. It’s as American as cherry pie.
Sure urban blacks with guns terrorise their neighborhoods, but I don’t recall anyone calling this “terrorism”. Just “crime”. As for the ELF clowns burning condos and such, I’d personally like to see the return of the public whipping.
Anyway, fascism would be easier to institute nationwide in the U.S. All you’d need is a charismatic leader during a significant economic crisis. For a more gradual slide into totalitarianism, maybe socialism in the wealthier states, leading to a schism and possible civil war.
Interesting times…
Who killed Kennedy again? A Communist.
The socialists aren’t going to take over by force because their side doesn’t know how to fight - after all, they’re against gun ownership, so 200 grandpas with Garands could take them to school in any armed revolution. No, the socialists would do it the weaselly way. They’d chip away, slowly, at peoples’ rights, including the right to bear arms.
What share of NRA members are also members of the ACLU or another group that protects non-2nd amendment rights?
Actually, we can narrow the question down, since Der Trihs said “Gun Owners” and not “Gun Nuts”, “Gun Fanatics” or “Gun Enthusiasts”.
What share of ACLU members own a firearm?
Either way, it shouldn’t be too hard to toss DT’s POV.
::Google search::
I see that the Nevada ACLU has come out in support of the 2nd amendment, differing from the national organization’s view. So there’s at least one gun-friendly organization that doesn’t limit its efforts to securing better firepower for its members.
IIRC, wasn’t Lee Harvey Oswald a leftist? (A communist sympathizer, even?)
*Note: I’m NOT asking anyone to google for me-I plan on doing so when I get home from work this evening.
And wasn’t that a long time ago ? Yes, it was. A long, long time ago that has no relevance to modern, near-fascist America.
Right NOW it’s the right that is making threats of violence regularly.
Don’t be foolish; if they were trying to take over ( it’s not like there’s enough of them to try ) they’d encourage gun ownership and fervor over gun rights. The Right rants and raves about the Second Amendment while it tries to gut all the others, because it knows that the Second Amendment doesn’t matter. The more people focus on the Second Amendment, the easier it is to take their rights away while they clutch their useless guns.
True, everyone and their grandmother was a Communist back then; I have photos of mine in a Zhongshan suit and full Stalin moustache. Oh, how her old eyes would light up when she talked about the mandatory May Day celebration and the rolling of the tanks through the National Mall! So different from today, when even mentioning the word “Communism” will earn you a public execution. It’s so strange the way things change. And how unfortunate are you and I, DT, to find ourselves living in the worst, most brutal, most repressive period in the history of all mankind? I’ve read about pogroms and genocide and whatnot, but if you could dig those people up and reanimate them, not one would disagree that their tribulation was a relative cakewalk compared to what we suffer in here in Bush’s America, 2008 CE.
It’s a shit sandwich all right, but if we band together as brothers, I’m confident we can ride it out. You start on that end, ok?
Holy shit! I just realized that Der Trihs is Red Shirt backwards.
I really just wanted to say that. But in an effort to add something small to the discussion, I should say that I also must not exist based on DT’s view of the universe. I’m an atheist who supports a woman’s right to have an abortion. I don’t vote on party lines, because I’m a social liberal and economic conservative and the two parties don’t suit me. I’m not a racist or homophobe (but of course that’s what all the racists and homophobes say). And I own a gun. I’d own more than one if I could justify it, but I don’t shoot the one I have enough as it is. And much to DT’s bewilderment, I’m not at all likely to use my pistol against blacks just for being black, gays for being gay, or abortion doctors for aborting. I must say, however, that if a black gay abortion doctor were to attack me with deadly force, I would be forced to kill in self-defense. I can only hope that I could live with the extra guilt of comitting a triple hate crime while defending myself.
I’ll never understand why people who claim to support personal liberties are the ones (generally speaking) who most want to take away the liberty of gun ownership.
I’m pretty much as socially liberal as a card-carrying member of the ACLU, but I do sympathize with both sides of the gun debate. The 2nd Amendment has a noble purpose behind it, and I don’t much like the idea of limiting a personal freedom. However, the pragmatic side of me thinks that if were a gun-less society (or at least it’s as restricted as, say, France), our murder rate would be significantly lower. Yes, many people would just switch to knives and friends, but guns definitely lower the threshold of difficulty for committing murder, and consequently there are gun murders that wouldn’t have happened had the gun not been available. I have no data on this, but my gut tells me that this not an insignificant number.
So, in terms of what’s good for society, I’m quite ambivalent, but I’m leaning towards wishing guns had never become such a pillar of our country. I can’t see any kind of passable gun control as having any type of effect, though. It would have to be a near total ban on firearms PLUS confiscating the hundreds of millions of guns already out there. Impossible, so I see the various gun control initiatives as just completely doomed.
:dubious: My, I guess the drugs kicked in.
It’s interesting to watch people argue againt a Der Trihs who just exists in their heads.
In my head, you aren’t quite as big as a bigoted jackass.
Then I read your non cafe society posts again.
ETA: Meh, never mind.