Desparate Housewives dec 12 (spoilers)

Earlier on, Zach told someone (Susan’s daughter, methinks) that he had heard the noise of the pickaxe digging through the pool once before, when he was a kid.

I think Larry Mudd’s suggestions are cool, but a tad too fantastic.
Dana could be a boy’s name too. And if you think it’s too feminine, why not just change his name to Dan?

I’m suspecting that if Zach ever had a baby sister, she died of SIDS or something like that, and a regular old gravesite will turn up. But I’m starting to think that no such baby sister exists.

Here’s my idea. The woman buried under the pool is the real Mary Alice, and the narrator we know as Mary Alice took her place.
I’m thinking that Narrator was having an affair with Paul, gave birth to Zach, and eventually confronted Paul and his wife about it, leading to a death, and the burial under the pool, and Mary Alice took her place.

And that plumber Mike is looking for the real Mary Alice.

Only a tad too fantastic, Barbarian? That’s pretty charitable. :stuck_out_tongue:

Unfortunately, while I really like the idea and would love for it to work out that way, realistically, I have a hard time imagining an American network going there in a prime time comedy/drama/mystery series. Oprah, maybe.

(There have been two intersex births in my immediate family, which may have something to do with why the idea appeals to me.)

I think you’re on to something with box-woman being Mary Alice I. That really clicks.

“Dana” being a unisex name is a good point amarinth– That could work. Still, Zach seems to have conceptualized “Dana” as a girl from an early age, so I dunno.

Hey, Askia– another thing to add to the “Why the hell would Paul do that?” list:

Burying the blender with Mrs. Huber. It’s bad enough that he saves the forensics guys some wok in figuring out what the murder weapon was – but come on – it probably even has traces of adhesive on it from the Dymo tape, labelling it PROPERTY OF MARY ALICE YOUNG in a nice convenient negative. :smack:

I’m not 100% sure, but I think that was in the narration. I seem to remember seeing Zach in bed, with the narration saying something along the lines of his sleep being disturbed by a sound that he’d heard once before, and then the next scene showed him walking out to the pool and seeing Paul at the hole. (Now that I think of it, that makes the whole under-the-pool thing more implausible than I thought. What, he ruined an existing pool, buried the box, and then had another pool put in? What?)

Larry. See what I mean about the pool? I mean, I can buy clandestinely digging through the concrete bottom of the pool with a pickaxe ONCE to hide remains, but not to dig them right back out again.

Also, Mary Alice is NOT Mary Alice’s real name! It’s “Angela.” Remember when Bree stole Mary Alice’s tape from the therapist? On the tape, Mary Alice was talking about being a recurring nightmare of a girl who was drowning, screaming, “Angela!” Suppose THAT was Dana?

Dunno quite yet how that ties in with the dead grown woman in the wood chest or why “Angela” changed her name. Unless…

Well, where’s Mary Alice’s mom in all this?

I’m still going with the theory I posed in the other thread about this episode - that Dana is the woman in the box and was Zach’s sister, but instead of a baby she was mentally disabled young adult (maybe adopted). It’d explain the baby blanket, if she was so mentally young to still need a security blanket, and Zach said he didn’t see his sister, just the blood and I don’t get the impression he actually remembered her at all any more than to inquire about her to his parents’ upset.

Yeah, I had forgotten that he actually put her under an existing pool. Pretty crazy.

I missed that entire episode, actually. That’s interesting.

Knowing that someone is buried under a big ol’ pool of water could easily translate into drowning dreams. (Well, at least in the context of night-time soap operas. ;)) Could you fill in the blanks for me?

How plausible is this: Angela takes Mary Alice’s place after her murder. She totally represses the memory, eventually believing that she’s always been Mary Alice. The guilt manifests as the drowning dream, and comes out in therapy. Paul flips out when he finds out she has been giving potentially damning information to her therapist, leading him to adopt a new policy: No “Freudian stuff” for the family. Too dangerous.

That’s an interesting idea, elfkin.

The pool thing is mind-boggling. The only way that makes any sense is that the murder happened while they were having the pool dug, and before the cement was poured.

Um I can download this somewhere? I missed half of one…

Or if there is some internet angel who gives a blow by blow…