McCain to Obama: SHE DOES NOT WEAR LIPSTICK!!
Or maybe Obama can mistakenly refer to her as “Charlotte.” Heh-heh.
Though I know he won’t.
Don’t kid yourself that I actually give two shits about your particular vote. I just happen to think your claimed reason for it is deserving of utter scorn and contempt, and I felt compelled to tell you so in no uncertain terms. Not that you give a rat’s ass about my opinion, either, but since I’m free to post it, I did so.
And don’t leave out how he gleefully rubbed our noses in it, like we were dogs who’d just shit in his house.
But we’re the bad ones for becoming contemptuous of the likes of him. Please.
Bricker, I hope come election day. you stand in that booth and contemplate the contemptible campaign run by mccain, and pull the lever not for obama, since I wouldn’t expect you to go against so many of your ideals, but for a third party candidate. Ron Paul, Nader, Mickey Mouse, anyone. If enough people consider that and call 2008 a wash, maybe, just maybe, the message will get through to the GOP that slimey politics don’t interest you. And America would best be treated to clean campaigns.
Well, yes. I did that.
And the impetus for that 2004 unseemly victory dance was that in the months leading up to the election, most of what I read here was how awful Bush was, and how there was very little chance he could win again.
It’s kind of the same things that pisses me off now. Of course, if you hold a position, you think you’re right and the opposing positions are wrong. But you can at least grant that you might be mistaken, or that reasonable people in good faith could reach different conclusions.
Do you remember any of that? Or is it your memory that one day in November, appropos of nothing in particular, I started shrieking like a maniac because Bush won?
Do you remember I offered bets about the outcome? It wasn’t to take money – it was to dethrone the irritating attitude of, “Of course we’re right, of course Bush is evil, anyone can see that, it’s obvious.” Other people didn’t think so, and in fact, a majority of them voted the other way.
So, yes, I did that. And it’s not particularly nice, I agree.
But let’s not pretend that it happened with no backstory. I didn’t jeer at anyone who said, “Hey, this is my view, but the opposite view is valid.”
Because you don’t believe that. You DON’T think the opposite view is remotely valid. You’re right, period.
I am against abortion, but I acknowledge that the pro-choice side is acting in good faith and doing what they think is right. Do you feel the same about pro-lifers? Etc, etc.
Much of that same attitude is what led to my more recent outburst in The Pit. When I am confronted with that irritating assuredness, that complete conviction, then my reaction is to attack it.
Probably something I need to work on.
Charlotte was the spider. Wilbur was the pig.
Damn it!
:smack:
Can anyone provide a link to the ad? Maybe my Google-foo is weak, or perhaps the GOP has pulled the ad?
That’s right, it’s aaaaaaaaall our fault you behaved like a jackass.
And no one’s eeeeever said to you that they disagree with your stance on abortion but believe you are acting in good faith. Not that you give a shit, but that’s exactly how I do feel, by the way. If I thought a couple of microscopic cells were really a baby and people were “killing” them, I’d be heartsick. I don’t believe that, but I do understand those who do.
But this isn’t about issues and it never was. This is about you being a big, fat crybaby and a very ugly sore winner.
Of course we thought we were right, period, in 2004 – because we were! There were no weapons of mass destruction. Iraq had fuckall to do with the attacks on 9/11. Saddam Hussein was not an imminent threat to this nation. It was dunderheaded beyond belief to wage a war on a sovereign nation in the first place, but to do so without the support of the United Nations, a plan which you strongly supported at the time, has hurt this country and our brave service people who’ve basically been fighting it almost on their own for years, very, very deeply.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Yes, you were wrong, period. And if you force this country to stay on the same wrong path we’ve been on for the past 8 years, you’ll be just as wrong this year.
If I may, Bricker I know what in your opinion are the most important issues to you personally and what guides your voting: What, in your personal opinion, is the biggest problem facing the country? I know you are pro-second amendment, and it is personally very important to you, but is it a critical issue for the country to face?
Is there any chance, any chance at all, that **Bricker **and the (bafflingly not as) small (as you’d think) number of posters who give a shit who he votes for or why, still, again, some more, could GET A FUCKING ROOM maybe?
Do you mean a link to the ad this thread was originally about? It’s in the link provided in my OP (toward the bottom of that page).
Yes, I sympathise with many “conservative” positions, hold a few of them myself even. I have no issues with say a pro-lifer, I’m pro-choice but very much of the ‘as little as possible’ bent. But pro-life people who vote GOP because they want to see abortion outlawed are simply fools. They’re being played. Republicans are never ever going to get Roe overturned, it would destroy them. For at least some of them, their other views are more in line with the other party, but they have the false hope that something will happen on abortion, when it simply won’t. I have contempt for the people playing them, and want them to lose, preferably humiliated.
That and the leaders are simply incompetent. Locally (I’m South African), I support the ANC position wise, but they’ve become corrupt and don’t know how to govern, so I want them voted out. Hopefully the incompetents will be replaced with a better crop. The GOP needs a house cleaning in the same way. Their entire leadership is corrupt and either don’t have the foggiest idea what they’re doing or don’t care.
The GOP should probably shift it’s positions too, since with immigration + birth rates their base is only getting smaller, but that’s another discussion.
DianaG you could always, I dunno, not read the thread?
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Well, yes. I did that.
And the impetus for that 2004 unseemly victory dance was that in the months leading up to the election, most of what I read here was how awful Bush was, and how there was very little chance he could win again.
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Well, yes, you did.
And the Rove/Shrub doubters and naysavers? They were right. The bozos shat on the country even worse than their previous horrible track record suggested. Many, of various political persuasions, recognized Rove/Shrub were disasters. They still got elected because as has been previously noted. Rove/Shrub proved that Big Lies and character assassination work. There will always been some people who fall for it. And others who just plain don’t care if flinging pig shit means their 'team wins.
Lovely, how once again you assign the Dope most of the blame for you behaving badly. The power over yourself you grant to others! How touching! How adroitly you avoid any responsiblity for gladly, avidly supporting arguably the most corrupt, vicious, incompetent administration in recent memory. You know, the ones who wrote the fucking campaign sleaze page 1 of the GOP playbook?
Ignore that man behind the curtain, folks. Actual substance discouraged. Convenient amnesia required. Ethical little Bricker, thoughtful student of political philosophy, is still engrossed with Message Board Meanies Started It.
But all means, continue, Bricker! Nobody could do a more thorough job of discrediting youself personally, nor similar cynical opportunists.*
Okay, so my guys really blew chunks, I mean, screwed the damned country eight ways for Sunday. Stunk so bad they gagged frickin’ vulters. No point in wasting a vote on a third party loser though because the important thing is my team’s gotta WIN. Anything else just isn’t patriotic.
Short-term or long-term?
I’m very interested in the appointment of federal judges who are textualist in their outlook. This is something that affects a wide array of issues – sure, abortion is the hot-button that immediately comes to mind, but the federal courts are the final battleground for a wide variety of issues, and I believe they should be arbiters of the law, not creators of the law. Long-term, that’s probably the key issue for me in a new president.
A second long-term issue is taxation. Obama plans to tax me at high percentages, simply because I make money. In my view, that’s a bad mistake. I believe we do better over the long term when we don’t punish people for doing well in their careers.
Shorter term, I believe Obama would be in too much of a hurry to withdraw all our troops from Iraq, and I don’t think that’s wise. That’s a key issue to me as well.
There’s already a big honking thread about it. You’d think it’d be enough. Guess not. We’ve just got to hijack every potentially interesting political thread into a referendum on the voting habits of Bricker.
Bricker, could you do us all a favor and stop dignifying such posts with a response? I ask you only because nobody else seems to be interested in ending the hijack.
And for the record, I agree that holding people in contempt for the way they vote is fucked up. Show a little respect.
Short-term or long-term?
I’m very interested in the appointment of federal judges who are textualist in their outlook. This is something that affects a wide array of issues – sure, abortion is the hot-button that immediately comes to mind, but the federal courts are the final battleground for a wide variety of issues, and I believe they should be arbiters of the law, not creators of the law. Long-term, that’s probably the key issue for me in a new president.
A second long-term issue is taxation. Obama plans to tax me at high percentages, simply because I make money. In my view, that’s a bad mistake. I believe we do better over the long term when we don’t punish people for doing well in their careers.
Shorter term, I believe Obama would be in too much of a hurry to withdraw all our troops from Iraq, and I don’t think that’s wise. That’s a key issue to me as well.
Thank you. I am stupid.
I hold the people who voted for the National Party (aka apartheid) in contempt, why on earth shouldn’t I? They’re racist pieces of shit. It’s an extreme example, but there is certainly a line that if a party crosses it and you vote for them anyway, you are contemptible. People just differ on where that line is.
Somebody needs to take this rabid bitch down.
Please, somebody on the left, do it quick.
Show me that’s she’s not mainstream. Show me that this is not how you guys feel. Show me that we’re really on the same side, and that you don’t view the right as your enemy that needs to be hated and destroyed.
Shit, it was all you guys on the left that told us what a great guy Mccain was what? 6 mos ago? How we should nominate him?
We did.
Take this bitch down. She deserves it. She needs to be taken down. Show me this is not the mainstream thinking.
I never really liked McCain. I might have voted for Obama before Palin.
This McCain shit is truly disgusting. Obama was trying to help kids, and protect them from predators. I strongly support such a program. McCain painted this as if he were some pervert looking to teach kids to play orgy in kindergarten.
I know it’s fair game to twist things a little and show your opponent in the worst possible light in politics. This is the worst I’ve ever seen. Nothing I hate more than when people falsely attribute positions to me that I don’t hold.
I think McCain is reprehensible. He might salvage me with a full retraction, explanation and apology. Might.
So take this rabid bitch down. Because if Tveblen is mainstream. If this growing trend of hatred wherein the right is the enemy is the way things have gotten polarized, then I gotta do I everything I can to marginalize and destroy any path to power for this faction of a party that hates me. I won’t put them in power.
If you lose this election, that’s how you’ll lose it. The moderates on the right are gonna look at the crazy rabid hateful faction of the left and say “fuck that.” I think there’s a lot of us.
So take this rabid bitch down.
Take her down and restore a little faith. Cool it off. Play nice. Do not give me reason to fear crossing over. I can’t vote for McCain.
But I swear to God, I’ll do whatever it takes to vote against the Vebs, because the lunatic fringe over on the left is sure looking mainstream. I will never vote with that. No way I’m handing somebody a knife to stab me with.
Take this bitch down. Show me there’s respectful differences. Show me it’s not this polarized. Show me the middle path.
I would much rather vote for something, than against something. I really can’t vote for Palin. She’s just going for VP. I can certainly vote against what I’m seeing here so wonderfully personified in VEB and mirrored and growing throughout the left.
Denounce this bitch. Take her down. Then we can all vote for something. After that we can argue about tax rates or somesuch until the next election.
You want my vote? That’s how you do it. Take this bitch down! Take the rest of them down! Can the hatred.
I’m just one guy. But there are millions like me. We decide the elections. You want our votes? You want to win it?
Take this rabid bitch down. Put a muzzle on her. Show me this shit don’t fly. Show me you don’t tolerate it. Her, and everyone like spewing this shit.
Do that, and you got my vote. Repeat the process, and shut these scumbags down and you’ll get millions more. I promise
We’ll all win.
I don’t like McCain. I don’t like what he did. I won’t vote for him. I will vote against you though if you stand with her and those like her.
Oh, and I almost forgot…
Take this bitch down.