Did FDR Will and Allow Pearl Harbor? Srdja Trifkovic's Take on the Conspiracy Theory

Yes, of course, we should open a new thread under the heading:

What is the signification of the eye on top of the pyramid depicted on the reverse of the 1 dollar banknote?

Would you accept this just as a little, yet highly important evidence of a conspiracy tending to enforce a new world order, as suggested by the Latin inscription on the same side of the note?

Another kind of evidence to answer your question is the following:

If you have seen the movies ‘The Lion King’, (by Disney, though not Walt of course!), ‘Leon’ (by Luc Besson), and ‘The Chronicles of Narnia’, you may remember that they have one thing in common, i.e. the lion – in the first movie as an animal, in the second as human lion named ‘Leon’, and again as a lion named ‘Aslan’ with a human-like animated face and voice in the third movie where Aslan finally takes over Jesus Christ’s role as the savior of the world (note that being a pure agnostic, I’m not at all emotional about this).

The first two movies came out in 1995, which happens to be the 50est aniversary of the conquest of Europe by the (tiny) mafious fraction of the anglo-american descendents of the pharaohs, hence the third movie, out in 2005, was meant to celebrate the 60est anniversary of the same event.

Watch out for the Lion emblem, it is the underlying symbol of the Sphinx the “pharaohs” are always keen to highlight on memorable occasions.

Remember another movie: ‘The Prince of Egypt’, where rows of Sphinx statues are depicted with heads featuring fierce profiles with long hooked noses, very much like the noses of Ramses’ and Moses’ fathers’ – both sons too have extremely long noses. Presumably the underlying message is that this long nose is not a common heritage of the pharaohs, since the two youngsters are otherwise clearly depicted as stemming from distinct origins – the rest of the action is void of any interest.

You may object that Besson is a Frenchman. When asked why he went to New York to make such a violent movie, he said: “I just knew, I had to do it” (the same answer was given by Spielberg about his ‘Schindler’s list’).

Besson may have become aware that he had been exploited after having gained the hearts of millions of Europeans with his magic ‘Le grand bleu’, for the sake of making a political movie to glorify what was perceived by the public as a typical New York Jew (with his black bonnet, white shirt, long coat, black attaché case and big black shoes, whereas the name Leon betrays his true nature of a mafious descendant of the pharaohs). Besson seems indeed to have taken revenge with his movie ‘The Fifth Element’, which starts from the Egyptian pyramids as the origin of evil power – later in the film you can see the actor who played a mad drug investigator in ‘Leon’, in the role of a sort of Hitler commanding a squad of badmen with faces resembling somehow Yasser Arafat. During a short while the squad leader lifts his mask and you can se the head of a black man underneath, when “Hitler” orders him to put back on the mask because he “does not like to see that (black head)”. Still later, standing high up in front of his subordinates, “Hitler” is suddenly bleeding from a hole in his forehead, and an off voice behind him announces his doom.

The message seems to be that Hitler was sponsored by some Egyptian originated occult power to commit the evil and then, after having accomplished his task, doomed by the same power.

Note that these are just bits and pieces I can remember of a movie seen years ago – and please also note that my hypothesis about the predatory fraction of the far descendants of the Egyptian pharaohs, as being responsible for a series of historical crimes against humanity still going on, is well anterior to all these films. It is my earlier discovery of these ominous origins of modern super-power after decades of reading of, and extrapolating from press reports in Europe’s three major languages, that has led me to interpret these movies in the way exposed above.

:rolleyes: No.

Hey, band name! :slight_smile:

Er, The Lion King was released in 1994, as was Léon, at least in both France and the US.

Conquering Europe is evidently the easy bit. The toughie is scheduling the anniversary celebrations.

Sure, according to the Zionist Overlord calendar.

Fnord is a substitute word used to designate a concept so terrifying your mind cannot grasp it. A concept it’s been trained not to grasp by, well, the kind of fictional new world order you are blaming for the Eye of Providence and The Lion King. You do get points for originality, though.

Fnord.

@ BrainGlutton (01-07-2009 10:29 PM)

So you believe that Wikipedia is neutral and independant?

I recently made some sarcastic comments to the Wikipedia entry ‘Hypercriticism’, only to see my contribution immediately removed, but the original text was carefully amended to some extent at the same time (and the conspiracy theorists are stigmatized in much the same way as in the Great Seal entry).

I just wonder about the origin of the recently announced substantial donations to Wikipedia…

@ Marley23 (01-07-2009 10:26 PM)

Do I now have to expect you coming up with clever questions?

@ bonzer (01-07-2009 10:18 PM)

Oops! Watch out the boomerang!

I looked up my history book with a sigh of relief: 6-6-1944 is indeed the crucial date worth celebrating – thanks for assessing definitely the 50-years-timing of the two movies!!!

How about the Chronicles of Narnia? Has it been out in 2004 then? And how about its successor, out in 2008 (as far as I know) and deemed to show the World of Narnia after 1000 years (wow… the millenium realm announced by the Nazis?). Could this mean that those who are deemed to have ordered this pessimistic forecast are beginning to have doubts about themselves and their mad project of world domination?

Boom goes the dynamite!

It vaguely bothers me that you had to grab a history book to find out the date of the Normandy landings, but whatever.

Yes, certainly, the crucial date worth celebrating wouldn’t be the end of a war, but rather one successful battle in that war.

Let’s not stop there, though, there’s more cyrptonomicon conspiracy anniversary dates where the Knights of Columbus continue to taunt us. Hercules? Came out 50 years after the founding of the Air Force. I wonder what the significance of THAT could be? Especially when “Hercules” happens to be the name of one of the aircraft in the US Air Force inventory!

I can’t even follow the train of thought here, I’m afraid.

Richard Parker’s suggestion would have been better as a bit of on-the-fly arse-covering. A somewhat less transparent arbitrary dodge at least.

Unfortunately for any consistency with your attempt to shift the date of the relevant anniversary for the other two, nope.

I’m just the peanut gallery in this thread.

How convenient - history can be adjusted to fit your theory! It’s like there’s always an anniversary of something and key dates in the Nazi regime would almost seem to be scattered throughout the '30s and '40s. It’s eerie.

If you do read about the fnords, check out the Law of Fives.

I think you’re on to something! According to IMDB Narnia was first released on…(wait for it)…Dec 7! Pearl Harbor! Make the connection…this thread was originally about Pearl Harbor…edivincison subtly changed the topic to a vast Jewish conspiracy and dropped some hints. Very cleverly he (she?) feigned confusion about the correct dates but still knew about Narnia’s release. He knows! edivincison is part of the conspiracy!

I’m looking forward to edivincison’s explanation for the Cowardly Lion in the Wizard of Oz (released: 1939).

I’m no historian, and ever since I came to invent a revolutionary aircraft in 1982, my interest has been largely focused on the future of mankind.

Yet as this invention happens to be the first ever concept eligible as a PA (Personal Aircraft), it is to be regarded as a potentially highly subversive break-through in individual mobility .

The nightmare of all tenants of power is indeed to see their crowds of citizens volatilizing in the airspace all over the planet, hence the stringent repression of all General Aviation aircraft (up to 4,5 tons) in general, and of the helicopter in particular. Just an example: in Russia, every helicopter landing must be announced 48 hours in advance… and in my country (CH), a couple of years ago, the authorities of the nearby town have decided that every helicopter landing on the city’s territory had to be announced three days in advance! Here is evidence of the same kind of repression in the USA: at the end of the 70es, the annual US sales of GA aircraft topped 20’000, at the end of the 90es this figure had dropped to a mere 700 (seven hundred!).

I’m only interested in the past as far as I want to know the stratagems of those who are deemed to oppose this major step towards genuine individual freedom. My invention would indeed offer the civil society the opportunity to take possession of the global airspace with myriads of personal aircraft, and in my view this kind of initiative is to be seen as the only conceivable antidote against the threat represented by the US global air superiority right now closing in on all nations of this planet.

Finally this takes us back to topic: if the Japanese could have mobilized say a million kamikaze aircraft, there would have been no Pearl Harbor, just capitulation.

I look at history as a gigantic puzzle no single historian could ever complete in his lifetime. What I try to do is just not to get blinded by “the trees hiding the forest” (as we say in French). Hence, I prefer to remember events and their potential correlations rather than dates and figures. Implementing this strategy on the basis of a canvas of purposeful anticipations has enabled me to assemble a sufficient number of significant clusters to be able to guess the schematics of the whole puzzle.

This mere one successful battle was no less than D-Day!.. and if I were a paranoia haunted esoteric, I would claim that D-Day means Devil’s Day.

Yet 6-6 looks definitely like a date chosen on purpose (which does not mean that the underlying correlation is historically relevant).

Don’t be afraid, take a plane if you want to catch up with high-flying ideas!

6th of June was also my grandmothers birthday- is that sinister or what?

I’ll let someone else answer your post because I can’t understand what you are attempting to say.

ZOMG! Your grandma must be the Grand Dragon Illuminatus!

Assuming that you’re even being serious about all of this (and well, it’s hard to tell if you are or not), one big problem with letting myriads of personel aircraft take to the skies is basically traffic control. This is accomplished on the roads by making everybody take a test to ensure they know the rules they have to follow in an automobile (ie: right side of the road, when to pass, when not to, speed limits, where you are allowed to drive, etc.), and for an airplane, it’s a good deal more difficult.

The immediate effect of letting every Joe Q Public take off in his own personal helicopter would be some untold large number of mid-air collisions on the way to work every morning (you think getting rear-ended on the interstate is bad? Oi.)

Something about black UN helicopters…

If the Americans could have mobilized the Strategic Air Command in 1937, there would have been no attack on Pearl Harbor and Japan would have never even considered leaving the home islands to bother other people.

If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.

This sort of game makes no sense. To say that if history were changed radically, then history would be different is nothing more than a tautology that explains nothing.

Or, stated more clearly, you look at individual incidents, (of which you have little understanding), outside any possible historical context and choose which of them make you feel comfortable in your conspiracy beliefs and exclaim, “Aha! See, I find support for my odd beliefs in the strange interpretations I impose on these incidents of which I lack any basic knowledge!

Here is a prime example:

D-Day may have saved Western Germany, (and, perhaps, Austria and Denmark), from Soviet domination, but while it probably shortened the war against Nazi Germany, it had nothing to do with “winning” that war. It was an important battle that brought a number of benefits to the Allies’ cause and helped shape the face of Europe during the Cold War, but it was simply not the defining victorious battle of that war. To believe that “This mere one successful battle was no less than D-Day!” is to demonstrate that you have no understanding of the events in that war–moving most of your other claims on this topic into the realm of delusions and bad dreams.

Some high ideas are more easily reached with the aid of pharmaceuticals.

There’s the minor technical detail that the original date selected for the Normandy landings was June 5. It got pushed back 24 hours due to weather. (Of course, I suppose the Illuminati could’ve been using their weather control machines to force that date…)

And the Gallopili landings were scheduled for the 23rd, not the 25th - whatever that means.

By who? Seems to me if the Japanese had gone to the expense of building a million throwaway planes and training a million throwaway pilots, they would have bankrupted and manpower-shorted themselves out of the war.