But the undecideds don’t know about it.
If you’re likely to believe Trump over Harris at face value, you’re not undecided, you’re a MAGA cultist.
If they say they are ignorant about Trump’s shenanigans after all this time, then answering a stupid “gotcha” question from right wing provocateurs isn’t going to clear anything up.
I met my ex-wife at work 19 years ago.
I don’t remember the name of literally anybody else I worked with at that time.
Frankly, I don’t understand your “concern” here.
And we will no doubt continue until filmore is convinced of the error of his ways.
The stupidity of that exchange is why Democrats aren’t engaging in it. It’s trivial and of no benefit to anyone.
@filmore’s entire argument throughout this thread is if Harris would just provide some proof of her job 40 years ago, this would all be done with and we could go on with business as usual.
History tells us that won’t happen. Donald Trump won’t let it happen, just like he never accepted Obama’s birth certificate, just like he continues to insist the 2020 election was stolen despite losing more than 90 court cases, just like he continues to deny ever having met E. Jean Carroll, just like he continues to attack Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, despite the fact that he’s not running against either of them anymore, ad infinitum ad nauseum.
The undecideds who don’t know who to believe, don’t know - not because of evidence - but because Trump has mastered The Art of the Big Lie. No matter how outrageous the claim, shout it loud enough and repeat it enough times and people won’t be able to tell the difference between the lie and the truth.
Keep Kamala on message. Trump has many more lies he’ll try to snare her with.
Are you fucking kidding me? Trump is a lying weasel who lies about everything from what his policy will be toward IVF to the crowd size at his inauguration to his golf score to what he had for breakfast. He lies when the truth would be easier to tell and help him more. And he’s a rich, snot-nosed narcissist and a lazy bastard. He’s always had more money than sense, even when filing for bankruptcy. He fucking “started his own business” with a “small” million dollar loan. I don’t even know what Trump Village is, but I assume it was something owned by his daddy. I’m sure if he had a “job”, it was something like telling the butler how to mow the lawn.
Harris is not a compulsive liar. She’s had middle class roots, grew up with a working mom and relying on neighbors for childcare. Here mother instilled in her responsibility and self-sufficiency. Her mom propably told her she wasn’t going to just sit around all summer, like a lot of middle class parents do.
It’s 100% believable Harris had a summer job at McDonalds. It takes inordinate chutzpah to think she didn’t work there.
And the money line is that nobody, myself included has asked for proof from Donald about his job. That’s you projecting, there.
Bullshit. These undecided voters know Trump lies his ass off. They’ve watched him since before 2016 lie all the time. If they know one thing about him, they know he’s a liar. It’s been all over the news and late night entertainment and meme cycle.
So at best, they know Trump is compulsive liar and Harris might have lied one time.
Gee, I don’t know, who should I vote for?
Yeah, that’s a vegan salad in the left and a turd sandwich on the right, I just can’t decide which I should eat. Tell me more about that turd sandwich - does it come with mustard?
With that, I’m done with @filmore. Any other rinse and repeat cycle will be met with the consideration it deserves - none.
I’m just not sure. I heard someone say that the lettuce in the vegan salad might have once been touched by a bug. Guess I’ll give the turd sandwich a try.
Some want to question whether Harris worked at a MacDonald’s while this is going on??
What the actual fuck?
You would be correct,
(And, of course, built with someone else’s money.)
And the NYT continues to cover for his insanity - Is the New York Times Pro-Trump? - #383 by Kolak_of_Twilo
And when the NYT covered that…that… whatever it was- they didnt bother to mention those insane ramblings of a diseased mind. But the NYT made sure they let everyone know Biden was senile.
Yup. That’s why I’m active in the gotv effort. Because there are lots of “sometimes voters” and it’s worth reaching out to them. It’s honestly NOT worth reaching out to people who hear Harris asset she worked at McDonald’s and Trump asset that she didn’t, and conclude that they need proof of Harris’s employment. Because they aren’t going to vote for Harris, no matter what.
Apparently Trump has claimed to have worked at Trump village as a youth. And no one has asked for proof. Because literally no one cares. There is not a single voter who is thinking, “well, i might vote for Trump, but i need to know if his story of his youthful employment is true”. Might there be a handful of voters who would be reassured by a W2 form from “Joe’s Alameda holding company”? Maybe? But it’s a tiny number, and providing the W2s would put the story back in the news and people who never saw it or forgot about it will then be prompted to wonder. Not many, but probably more than the ones who would be reassured. It’s a losing move.
(The birth certificate was a real issue, in that if Obama weren’t a natural-born citizen he would actually be unqualified. Working at a fast food place? Different order of magnitude.)
Indeed so. The overlap in the Venn diagram between “not providing proof to my satisfaction of McDonald’s employment is disqualifying” and “would ever conceive of voting for Harris” may well require an electron microscope.
Are there real voters who don’t know Trump’s a liar?
Yes - I know of many who sincerely believe he is not. But they are also ones who have already made up their minds to vote for him.
Such voters who are truly “undecided” (I still say they are “decided but undeclared with dubious turnout chances” is more accurate these days)? Well, if you honestly believe they exist, I may own a bridge or two in which you may want to invest.
I’m only aware of this incident from the Dope, and I’m still not sure what happened. My right wing relatives never brought it up and I haven’t heard a thing about it in my day-to-day life. So I dunno.
I see it as more like:
Kamala : I worked at McDonald’s when I was young.
Donald : I worked at the first golf course on the moon when I was young. I designed it, too.
Bothsiders: How come you are accepting what Harris says at face value while calling Trump a liar? They are both just talking about their early job history. Clearly the only reason is that you hate Trump so much that you are holding him to different standard while giving Harris a pass.
There are real people who only watch Fox news, or they listen to Conservative Talk radio (CTR).
A buddy of mine was quite liberal. But he also liked guns- no, not a gun nut, but a few. So he started listening to a CTR show about guns, and then there was another guy that came on afterwards that my buddy had met a couple of times. Next thing you know, my buddy is on that guys radio show once a week to talk about guns… and goats (he had some goats). Like a couple years later, and this one time liberal guy is now posting shit like Obama being the “Muslim in Chief”. It really doesnt take too long to get brainwashed.