Did Karl Rove out the CIA Agent?

Cooper didn’t take Rove’s across-the-board waiver seriously. He thought it was coerced. That’s why he refused to testify until Rove’s attourney specifically said that if Cooper was going to jail it wasn’t for Karl Rove.

Miller probably doesn’t take the across-the-board waiver seriously either. And it’s probably not Rove she’s protecting. After all, Novak’s orginal article mentioned, “senior administration officials” … plural. There’s probably more than one leaker. Hence all the speculation about conspiracy charges.

Please looking up “straws” in the dictionary. Specifically the passage regarding “grasping at”.

It’s kind of amusing to watch Rove’s defending twist themselves in tighter and tighter knots over this one … .

As you suggest, it’s to save her career, but not because she’s the leak. Regardless of the outcome here, and regardless of any confidentiality agreements Rove may have signed or waived, Cooper’s career as a White House correspondent is over. Access is the coin of the realm in that world, and Cooper will be lucky to get the time of day from anyone in the Bush administraton after this. Miller, OTOH, has shown that her willingness to play ball is without bounds, so once she gets out, she’ll go right back to being fed the juicy and largely bullshit scoops she’s built a career on.

That’s why Rove thought he could release them from their agreement without any problem; he knew they’d be idiots to take him up on it, career-wise.

For a really good discussion of some of the more arcane points in this shitstorm, go here

Called “Crooked Timber”, these guys are on the case!

Joe Bob 'luc says: Check It Out!

Things like this scare me.

The current occupants of the White House seem pretty fucking convinced that they and their ilk will be there forever. Continually removing any sort of restrictions on their power.

Why aren’t they worried that, eventually, the door will swing the other way?

I find it worrying.

-Joe

Some of us have been worried for a long long time. Welcome to our little club.

I love that picture of Turd Blossom (A.K.A. Piglet, Karl Rove, etc) sitting behind the puppet, smiling like a Cheshire Cat. I think that he’s under the impression that the country is not going to care that he is the source. He is also under the impression the entire country is composed of Bible-beating right-wing nut jobs. My question is to those people who care:

What are you going to do about it?

They are banking on our apathy, so what are you going to do about it? This is why, regardless of how much my party screws up, I’ll never be a republican because they are such unapologetic hypocrites.

If Bush is “a man of his word” he should honor his own declaration about firing whoever was involved. Instead we get doublespeak from him and ideologues trying to equivocate over technicalities. The question I have for these people is does Rove’s behavior strike you as, at the very least, scummy?

If you think that your party holds an outright majority and that there are not a lot of quasi-publicans and pseudocrats out there, you are sadly mistaken. I hope these people care because if they don’t more treasonous and despicable acts will follow from an administration that not only lies, it does it with a bold face.

I fear he may be right. So far he has been untouchable, no matter what he does. He has “read” us as a bunch of bible thumping nutjobs, and he was right. I hereby invoke the Frist to grant me the power of Remote Diagnosis, and am going to dare say, what we have in Rove is a psychopath.

They are banking on our stupidity.

He has never ever been a man of his word. He has always been a liar and a sneak.

Have you seen this photo of Rove, shot just after he told Bush about his outing of Plame?

They shot him?! A bit much, I was thinking three to five, tops.

Broadly speaking I share your worry, but I don’t find this particular reason for concern convincing.

Politicians sadly only worry about the short term. Survive in power today, fuck it if everything goes to hell tomorrow.

The Diebold fix is in.

Of course Rove did it, and no he won’t pay.

I smell a Medal of Freedom!

:dubious:

You sure it isn’t a bad day at the skunkworks?

After reading many different articles, making this claim and that claim, and the stonewalling and doubletalk, and the attempt at shifting the blame onto Wilson and Plame, I hope Rove is found guilty of something (anything). But I am prejudiced. I can’t stand him.

As usual, Mark Steyn nails it:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn17.html

This whole scandal came about because Valerie Plame and her husband (an incompetent, untrustworthy, self-aggrandizing asshole of the first order) cooked up a mini-conspiracy to hijack the Niger mission in order to spike it. Which, incidentally, is a much bigger story than Who-said-what-to-Rove or What-Rove-said-to-whom.

Still, I have been amused by the sight of Joe Wilson tap-dancing on TV and elsewhere in a desperate attempt to prevent everyone from closing the circle on the story (it started with Joe and it’s going to end with Joe). It was especially funny watching Joe hide behind Chuck Schumer (playing the bully-bodyguard) - as if Chuck won’t hesitate to pitch Joe overboard when it becomes politically expedient.

But the thing is beginning to lose steam. Smarter Dems are starting to back away from it. Bottom line: There is absolutely no provision under the Statute which can be used to charge Rove with a crime. He’s going to skate through this without even mussing his hair (if he had any).

I can hear you now: “NOOOOO! We want him charged with something!” But why? “Because he’s a poopyhead! And we hate him, we hate him, we hate him!”

Calm yourselves, children.

Bush always wins.

Live with it.

I can’t decide if I should be embarrassed by you or embarrassed for you.

No need to choose. I can do both!

So much bullshit, so little time!

It may be a bigger story. But most importantly, its is a different story. Once again, the “look! shiny!” ploy is dragged out. And your fairy tale of a conspiracy…well, that’s really interesting! Perhaps you would like to open a thread on that…remarkable allegation. It would be fascinating to watch you try and substantiate that cowflop. Of course, we both know it would get the living crap kicked out of it, toot damn sweet. Let’s just leave that with “double dog dare you!”.

But, of course, that isn’t the issue, now, is it? If you had pictures of Joe Wilson dispensing porno at the Junior Prom while his wife shoots smack, it would have no bearing whatsoever on Mr. Rove’s actions. And its about Karl Rove. Not Joe Wilson. Karl Rove.

How nice for you. Karl Rove?

El cito, por favor?

This line intrigued me too, so I did a little diggin on “back away” and Plame. There’s not much out there:
The Pantagraph, previously known for charging Michael Moore a buck to use its headlines in F911, had this to say:

Let prosecutor, grand jury decide Rove’s involvement (July 16)

And the pubby leaning Balloon Juice Blog has this:

suggesting that smart republicans should back off, but the notion that smart democrats are backing off seems to be a Ptolemaic invention. Maybe he’s on a dem insider email list that we peons don’t have access to?

Follow the Uranium

This is one time I’d really like to see the Domino Theory work.