Did we all see the same movie? Avengers

Actually, it would be Lt. Col. Wrong!

How dare you rebut my lousy argument with my own words. That’s cheating.

And then what? He would have a beach head in New York City and every military asset in the U.S. and the world on the way to put a smack down on him. Loki may have believed that the whole world have surrendered at this point, but why should they? Because this alien army was so mighty it overcame the NYPD in a single day? Their war plan was equivalent to coming to prison and surprise nut checking the biggest con in the yard. Maybe they did have enough firepower coming through the portal to take over the world, but the way they used it was the best way to gueruntee the biggest response we could muster. Loki was only concerned with NYC and the Avengers, he no plan for conventional military.

First when Loki sent the Destroyer, he was not a rogue element, he was in charge of Asgard. Second, all anyone on Earth would know about Asgard at the end of Thor was that they were an extremely powerful military culture who had just had a successful coup followed by an equally successful counter coup. And that some factions there did not care about the Earth at all. Why should we trust them to protect us?

It has been a while since I saw Captain America, but other than the Nazi’s being evil, why would they suspect the cube was more dangerous than just its power would suggest?

I’m pretty sure this isn’t implied, it’s explicitly stated - if not it’s such a strong implication it may as well have been.

And let’s point out another problem with SHIELD having Tesseract-based weaponry (and Hydra’s arsenal, and other superkit).

They are a secret organization, which seems to be tied to a single government (but may be tied to none, I don’t think it was ever entirely clear)…developing weapons that can take down every army on Earth. Yeah, can’t go wrong, there. Those lovely folks at Hydra are such a great example to follow.

Of course, they now have the Avengers on their payroll which is hardly better from an outside POV, but the team knows they can be trusted (on this count, at least) and will certainly go rogue if SHIELD decides to go all cackly supervillain.

I didn’t find her very attractive, but I appreciated the gratuitous ass shots of the other three characters I mentioned. I just wish there had been more of Thor as well.

No ass shot is ever gratuitous!

Personally, I’m of the opinion that that would have been sufficient justification in itself. But as it happens, I also think she did a great job with the acting, in what screen time she had.

SHIELD might not suspect it, but Captain America saw the cube melt Red Skull’s face and open a rift into some other world. All of this was wildly chaotic and out of control.

While HYDRA’s weapons were impressive, they weren’t particularly effective, in that the Howling Commandos managed to foil them time and time again.

Those two facts together would make anyone pretty skeptical of the risk to reward ratio of messing with the cube.

I agree.

I also think that she and Hawkeye provide a slightly more relatable, street-level view of the situation. They aren’t streaking through the sky (mostly) or blowing the doors off of squads of enemies at once, but they are still effective.

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She really served little purpose in the film, in fact I’m of the opinion that she was only really there for the purposes of having a hot actress run around in a skin tight suit.
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She stopped Hawkeye’s rampaging sabotage of the Helicarrier, kicked his ass, and brought him back around to the side of SHIELD.

Oh, and she did discover how to shut the portal down and stop the invasion, and then do so.

Other than that, no purpose whatsoever. :rolleyes:

Thor smashed things and ineffectually tried to convince Loki of the error of his ways, but he’s not a hot chick.

Black Widow is Russian (hint - real name: Natasha Romanov)

And then he would have had aliens continually pouring out of the portal to provide backup. Without Iron Man rerouting the nuke into the control ship, no power on this Earth could have stopped him.

Was Russian. At least, that’s what she tells Loki.

Mission: kill moose and squirrel.

shrugs To me those all felt like things they could have had anyone do. I just didn’t think her character really added anything to the film, she had little personality and unlike the other Avengers (excluding Hawkeye who was really just there to serve as the saboteur) she didn’t really have a place or purpose on the team. Still credit where credit is due her encounters with the Hulk were some of the highlights of the film.

A nuke landing in NYC would have stopped them pretty good too. There may have been a lot of them, but they were not endless. They were all also not very effective. An air burst might have worked even better.

A nuke landing in NYC wouldn’t have stopped the portal (which could only be penetrated by Loki’s staff) and there were a lot of aliens waiting to come through.

Quoting out of context because I can.

She doesn’t really do it either. Doesn’t the old scientist guy tell her that the staff closes the portal?

And actually, isn’t the staff just lying on the ground at that point? Seems like the old scientist guy could’ve just done it himself, off camera, and saved the day why the rest of the heroes were being worthless running around Manhatten individually picking off aliens with medieval technology (arrows and bludgeoning them with a shield).

slight hijack - They’ve re-released the Avengers in theaters for Labor Day weekend.

Alright! On a national holiday celebrating the worker, America can see how rugged individualism fails yet again, but co-operative action and acceptance of personal differences saves the day. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ll be sure to tell my kids that’s the underlying message if I wind up taking them to see it.

Or maybe I’ll just leave it at “Hulk smash!!!”

Fantastic. I just stole this for my own uses.